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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:14:36 -0400
To: mark.welzel@ex*.co* (MARK WELZEL)
From: dlv@ga*.ne* (Dan Volker)
Subject: Re: Flames
Cc: techdiver@terra.net

>Can I say something (you bet I can!)
>
>First: Dan, read your mail more thoroughly, SF is Scott
>(he even said so).If you want his last name you've got problems.
>
>Second: George has some good input, and a lot of bad delivery.
>Most of us know it. Should we encourage more civility? Perhaps.
>
>I agree that some wrong thinking needs to be addressed, but if
>you yell real loud a lot of folks plug up their ears and won't
>listen to you. That helps no one.=20
>
>Personally, though, I have a hard time listening to any of
>these up start "dive journals". Seems right about the time
>a new journal is starting up we get all kinds of activity from
>that(those) individual(s). You wouldn't be one of those?
>Would you Dan?

Not hardly, I started my journal over 1 year ago, and it was the first real=
=20
magazine with images on the net. Bogus gif imaged e-zines don't count.


>
>DT>Many of these people could be considered the "big fish in the little=
 pond"
>DT>where they dive....
>DT>....in his local area, he may be the "Hot Shit" diver/instructor
>DT>that all the new open water divers hold in awe.
>
>Up North here, we never heard of George or most of you Florida
>boys. We also don't have the number of fatalities you guys have.
>Maybe your pond is bigger than mine, but mine isn't full of
>corpses and ego's (although we do have some of the latter).
>
>DT>together. Forget that he is a friend of Dr. Bill Hamilton, and has=
 special
>DT>tables developed for his own applications, because he is better than the
>DT>diving "masses".=20
>
>Dan, if George should stop short do you think his friend Dr. Bill
>Hamilton will surgically remove your head from his ass? Do you
>have any ideas of your own? As I read your message to the list
>you just rant and rave and don't say a damned thing. I don't
>know this Scott SF and don't mean to defend him, I'm sick and
>tired of wanna be greats like yourself fouling the list. At least
>if George says something he has his accomplishments to stand on,
>what about you? And I thought some of the wreck divers up here
>were assholes . . .

Mark,=20
I don't know if I'd rather see you on one of our dives, to watch you shit=20
yourself, or have you come up here so I could personally kick the shit out=
=20
of you. Maybe we should just plan on both happening. I don't think its cool=
=20
when weenies like yourself talk tough over e-mail. Why don't you prove you=
=20
are'nt full of shit and take a trip to Palm Beach. I'll even get you  a comp=
=20
room on the beach for the enjoyment I'll get out of this.   I'll book the=20
boat, and I'll get us some ring time at Steve Shepards Gym where you can be=
=20
videoed having the crap kicked out of you.. . All you have to do is show.
And of course when you don't show, we'll all know what your really made of.
Dan

>
>Mark Welzel
>/\/\/
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Dan Volker
SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL
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