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Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:52:18 -0400
To: Mark Welzel - Personal <STRATTON/SABRE1/Mark%Stratton_Travel@mc*.co*>
From: dlv@ga*.ne* (Dan Volker)
Subject: the little fag Mark Welzel, and the flames he started.
Cc: techdiver@terra.net

>>
>>Not hardly, I started my journal over 1 year ago, and it was the first real
>>magazine with images on the net. Bogus gif imaged e-zines don't count.
>
>For the record, I thought you might just be another Sub Aqua Journal
>or other piece of crap like that. For the sake of integrity I'll admit I
>have no
>knowledge of your journal. Although I can only guess the following
>is an example of your literrary skill.
>
>>I don't know if I'd rather see you on one of our dives, to watch you shit
>>yourself, or have you come up here so I could personally kick the shit out
>>of you. Maybe we should just plan on both happening. I don't think its cool
>>when weenies like yourself talk tough over e-mail. Why don't you prove you
>>are'nt full of shit and take a trip to Palm Beach. I'll even get you  a
>comp
>>room on the beach for the enjoyment I'll get out of this.   I'll book the
>>boat, and I'll get us some ring time at Steve Shepards Gym where you can be
>>videoed having the crap kicked out of you.. . All you have to do is show.
>>And of course when you don't show, we'll all know what your really made of.
>>Dan
>
>Okay, so you're a big tough guy. But your geography is a bit off, New York
>is
>up, Palm Beach is down. And anytime you want to prove your manhood you
>are welcome to come on up, I personally wouldn't waste the trip on you.



>Now lets talk about tough talking weenies, wasn't it you who was hiding
>behind
>Georges credentials trying to rip Scott SF (or whoever) apart? That sounds
>like
>a cowardly attack to me, maybe things are different down in Florida. I
>believe I
>was just unmasking your faggot like act to the masses, lest you continue to
>fool others into thinking you are more than the boy you are.You remind me
>too
>much of the kinds of divers that talk tough, and try to do all the high tech
>stuff
>just so they can show everyone how great they are. How come your diving
>doesn't just speak for itself? I want no fame or glory and the people who
>count up here respect me and my diving, I don't care what you think. But
>maybe I'm
>wrong, maybe there are people on this list that will tell me that you're
>this great
>diver and you were justified in the things you said - funny, but I haven't
>heard
>any of them yet. And if you want to come on up, I won't hide. And even if I
>can't
>kick your ass, you will bleed.
>
>Mark Welzel
>/\/\/
>
Mark, 
I don't find this flaming bullshit fun. Maybe it is to  a little wimp like 
yourself, because finally you get to talk big in front of a peer group, but 
guess what big talker, you've been called out. Everyone on this list knows 
you want no part of backing up your mouth. You sound like a fat  little 
fagged out  french poodle barking and straining at the leash, hoping it's 
owner will continue to hold it back.  No one's holding you back now fat ass. 
 My offer still stands. This is your big shot at "fame". As many rounds as 
you can go in a regulation ring with world famous Steve Shepperd refereeing 
the fight (this means if you throw in the towel you'll be saved). Ultimate 
fight challenge rules (no biting or eye gouges, any thing else is legal).   
And guess what---- wouldn't it be great if I mpeged the video of our "fight" 
so that everyone on the list could see you running and crying and  carrying 
on like the blatant pole smoker you obviously are?   If you want to reply to 
this, do it on private e-mail, I'm sure the list is sick of reading crap 
like this. But if you're not ready to tell me when you want to arrive in 
Florida to get your medicine, don't bother me.  A face to face argument 
would never have gone this long without you hitting the ground, and your 
continued simpering is too pathetic to pay attention to any longer.



And my apologies to the list...If Mark has anything else to say to me I'll 
reply on personal e-mail to the little fag.
I will try to avoid any flame wars with others on the list in the 
future...this is not what I got on this list for.  I think people should not 
say things on this list that they would not say in person, and this would 
eliminate problems with people like Mark.  
Dan
Dan Volker
SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL
http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive

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