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Subject:RE>Rebreathers: Screening out the un Sent on: 1/8/95 2:35 pm
Dan Voler wrote -->>
the issue is:
A manufacturer sells a rebreather to someone who can not or will not study
and learn material basic to deep diving and gas physics. Further, the person
in question, while certified as a diver, has NO bouyancy skills with single
or double tanks, and after over a week has made no progress in physical
skills or attitude. This person expects to be given a card entitling them to
dive deep wrecks with a rebreather, at the conclusion of their
vacation/training.
How can the tech diving industry prevent a NON-TRAINABLE diver from buying a
rebreather, and then trying to get the certification???
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Ronnie Bell wrote -->>
Does this mean that every one must pay Honda, General Motors, Ford (ad
infinitum) for training before they can buy a car. I can go down and buy
a Gulfstream Jet with NO TRAINING. Whats the deal?
NOPE NOPE, the reason you have to be trained to fly is that when you
crach you crash INTO somthing (street, house, school etc) same thing with
a car. I think that if you have the money you should be able to buy the
equipment. Now if you want to bundle into the price "free" training thats
ok with me. I think you'd be a fool to not get trained. I also think
that's it's my right to be a fool even to the extent that I kill myself!
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The list has often had various discussion re "my right to dive the way I want
to" and Qualifications for qualifications sake etc - I believe that the (lists)
concern is that we see the maufacturer's / training orgs / industry watch dogs
would gain too much control & when would it stop - No Nitrox fills without the
card - No trimix fills without the card - You can't buy that reg as its a high
performance reg and your a novice etc etc. Dans original Question may have got
lost as he rewrote -
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The issue is, if YOU were sold a
rebreather which was supposed to be easy for you, but found out later that
it was far beyond your abilities to use, and that you could not get your
money back, would it be your fault for being suckered, or the fault of all
manufacturers for not putting in safeguards to prevent this.
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Maybe the question should be - if YOU bought a rebreather of which a training
course (for those who needed it ie < X hours on a rebreather of same or
similar
design) AND an MANDATORY acceptance test/exam were part of the overall cost and
you failed the exam could you have your money back - I'd say yes for the
equipment costs and NO for a proportion of the fee which was the exam, would
those who took the training get the training fee back - NO : the fee is paid to
attend the training course, the certificate/qualification is earned during the
course as someone else said - failure to achieve acceptable skill set (and
attitude) = no qualification. Just like in driving tests, they can take the
course again (and pay for it) and possibly fail it again
Just a thought
Mail Address : graeme_davison@ne*.co*
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