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To: Martin@de*.de*.co*.uk*
Subject: Re: Re: Nitrox courses
From: Jason Rogers <gasdive@sy*.DI*.oz*.au*>
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:43:34 +1000 (EST)
> Can anyone explain the difference between me home brewing Nitrox (or trimix)
> and a shop brewing it?  Why is it that I get flamed for suggesting one, and
> the shops are OK when they do it.  One nitrox instructor actually said that
> I was being irresponsible if I used Certified Diving Mixture from BOC Gasses
> and that I shoud get "much safer" mixes from a shop.  Does it strike anyone
> else here that there is alot more to this than just safety (conspirisy
> theory of the day)
> Cheers Jason :)
Jason, if you don't understand the difference between obtaining life support
gasses from  an outlet certified to deliver them and somebody with a small but
dangerous amount of knowledge "brewing their own" then there is no point in
anyone on this list trying to explain it to you.
If you are qualified, as you keep intimating, to do this, I suggest you stop
encouraging people who are not qualified to place themselves at risk.

Happy diving
Martin

Hi Martin,
The point I was trying to make is that these "certified" outlets are
only certified by some private organisation.  I could just as easily
start my own private organisation and "certifiy" myself to mix gas.

The methods used to mix gas by the "certified" outlets here are
*exactly* the same as those used by home brewers.   Real goverenment
certified labs, such as those maintained by BOC, use quite different
equipment and techniques.  The term "certified" as used by these
private organisations is misleading in that it tends to make the
uninformed user think that the "certified diving mixture" that they
get is infact real "certified diving mixture" when infact it is home
brew made in a shop.  (shop brew?)  Gas analysis for real "certified
diving mix" costs about $50 per cylinder and is far more involved than
simply flowing it across a couple of miniox's.

Do you disagree with me on this point?

Cheers Jason :)

PS I probably phrased my earlier post rather badly.  I strongly
encourage everyone to avoid all risk!

PPS  I'm not "qualified" in any respect by any private scuba organisation
with the exception of a FAUI SCUBA Diver (entry level cert), a PADI
resuce diver, and a CDAA Sinkhole diver.  I repeat, I have no Nitrox, Tri-
mix or tech certificates from any private tech diving orgainisation.

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