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From: <joe@po*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Definition of a neophyte
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 23:15:35 -0400
Wow!  43 dives and ~8 fatalaties.  Give him the benefit of the doubt and cut
the deaths in half........thats still almost a 10% rate of fatalaties!
Pretty impressive, especially for a neophyte!

Usually it takes decades to rack up a body count like that!!!




----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 11:23 PM
Subject: Definition of a neophyte


> Hi JT-
> Well, I went ahead and took the time to count up all your technical dives.
> Phew!  That was worse than doing my taxes.  You have racked up a bunch of
> dives!  Now I can see how you feel you are in a position to call everyone
> neophytes.  I am including the list below; please feel free to correct the
> numbers as I wasn't sure on some of the liveaboard trips (e.g., ANDREA
DORIA
> trips) exactly how many dives you did.  Since I was in the area at the
time,
> I don't recall you doing too many other tech dives aside from the USS
> WASHINGTON (first dove almost 10 years earlier) and your first ANDREA
DORIA
> trip.  I would be curious to learn about your trimix training and how many
> work-up dives you did before doing these super deep dives.  I understand
> (from your own website - re: "seasoning") that there must have been some
> prior discussion about your lack of intermediate technical dive experience
> before doing your first Billy Mitchell trip.  Care to share your early
> technical diving experience, since it is not to be found on your website?
> Surely you did not just do a DORIA trip or the WASHINGTON without
conducting
> a significant number of less demanding technical dives first?
>
> In any case, here is the list I came up with:
>
> 1998 (4)
> ANDREA DORIA (3)
> USS WASHINGTON
>
> 1999 (11)
> MANUELA
> MALCHACE
> V-43
> G-102
> OCEAN VENTURE
> ANDREA DORIA (3)
> OSTFRIESLAND
> FRANKFURT
> OCEAN VENTURE
>
> 2000 (9)
> SKYCLIFFE
> ANDE
> MANUELA
> U-140
> U-117
> OSTFRIESLAND
> OCEAN VENTURE
> USS WASHINGTON
> VITRIC
>
> 2001 (15)
> 490FSW SAND DIVE
> SKYCLIFFE
> HYDRO ATLANTIC
> ANDREA DORIA (9??)
> ETHEL C
> LAKE JOCASSEE
> OSTFRIESLAND
>
> 2002 (4)
> U-117
> ETHEL C
> OSTFRIESLAND
> LAKE JOCASSEE
>
> 2003 (0)
>
> You really have been a busy redneck JT!  Looks like you have 43 dives past
> 150fsw from 1998 - 2003 (six-year average of seven dives; five year
average
> of eight dives), according to your own website.  Impressive!
> In the event I am wrong, and you do not have all your dives posted on your
> website (even though you said you did), let's go ahead and put a 100%
error
> factor in that running total.  So, that would give you 86 dives past
150fsw
> over five years.  Now I see where you have developed this arrogant
attitude
> of yours.  Well earned indeed!
>
> I stand corrected JT.  My sincere apologies.
>
> List, JT has obviously earned the right to call everyone who poses a
> question or anyone that disagrees with him a neophyte.  Anyone that even
> suggests JT is anything but an experienced, competent, super-diver should
> just be ashamed of themselves.
>
> Laughing hysterically,
> Mike
>
>
> Michael C. Barnette
> Association of Underwater Explorers
> Because it's there...somewhere...maybe.
> http://www.mikey.net/aue
>
>
>
>
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