Christian, Go back and read every post, you're trying so hard to get me on 
something that you're lost. I have already stated how it is decided who I 
let dive  on a RB on the trips I organize. On your next post let us know 
which dumbass you are, take your pick......

and have a nice day


  At 04:58 PM 3/25/03 +1100, Christian Gerzner wrote:
>Capt JT wrote:
>
> > The only dumbass is the one who will risk his life on an unproven
> > piece of equipment and not think there is any risk.
>
>Since this post was originally directed at me, I feel I have a right
>to respond.
>
>JT, there are actually many versions of "dumbass", such as, but not
>limited to:
>
>* the one who doesn't properly read/comprehend what is written - you,
>for instance
>* the one who is selective in his responses - you, for instance
>* the one who (stupidly?) requotes questions previously posed he'd
>rather not answer - you, for instance
>* the one who has no consideration for others - you, for instance
>* the one who presumes certain facts or fallacies - you, for instance
>
>Let's take that last: how do you know that Nic Gotto (remember, his
>name is still in the subject line) "will risk his life on an unproven
>piece of equipment and not think there is any risk"?
>
>You talked to him about that? The question is rhetorical, yet you
>continue to make unproven allegations about Nic Gotto's diving style
>without knowing diddley squat about what he did, how he did it and how
>he presented it to others, if at all.
>
>So let's take your point of "risk" and making others aware of "risk".
>Do you really think that members of a family who know nothing about
>diving can make an informed decision, leave alone opinion, about
>equipment or technique based on what is told them? Do you not think
>that divers, ANY diver, will be relatively biased? Do you not think
>that the vast majority of divers, but of course, consider that their
>equipment is the best? I recall Michelle saying something about Nic
>buying this equipment because he considered it safer than OC (rightly
>or wrongly - at that time). How would Michelle be able to naysay this
>.. unless she was also a diver and I suspect although I don't
>actually know, that she was not.
>
>Let's then take the second "version of dumbass" above (and I quote
>your quote of it below). I still have to hear how you decide on who,
>using a RB, is "allowed" to dive with you on one of your much-vaunted
>dive trips that you organise?
>
> > At 06:31 AM 3/24/03 -0500, George Irvine wrote:
> >
> > > Dumbass, she was talking about scrubber breakthroughs, you
> > > ignorant moron. What he did not know and was not told is that this
> > > is an easy calculation to within minutes on a properly designed
> > > unit, a designation which obviously does not apply to the Buddy
> > > Inspiration. The scrubber is uselessly small and inefficient.
>(snips)
>
> > >          > Now, would you care to answer my response to you
> > >          > as follows:
> > >          >
> > >          > > > > On trips I organize there are only a select
> > >          > few I let on with
> > >          > > > > a RB and then I have certain rules they
> > >          > must agree to and
> > >          > > > > they were getting it done on OC before they
> > >          > got a RB.
> > >          >
> > >          > > > So first of all you challenge anyone to prove
> > >          > ... oh ... I get it,
> > >          > > > the RB divers are NEVER your buddies? But
> > >          > subject to *your*
> > >          > > > rules that a select few must agree to, that's
> > >          > OK, these select
> > >          > > > few can then dive with you?
> > >          > > >
> > >          > > > What apparently gives you the right to be the
> > >          > final arbiter of
> > >          > > > whether a RB diver can, or cannot, dive with
> > >          > your group? Oh,
> > >          > > > you're an expert on RBs? But you don't dive
> > >          > them. Or is your
> > >          > > > criterion the fact that they were getting it
> > >          > done on OC before
> > >          > > > they got a RB? If so, that's quite a call.
> > >          >
> > >          > Christian
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