Christina, why is it that you can not take anything in its proper context?
You love stirring up shit. DIR does not recommend any rebreather, unless the
risk of not using it outweighs the risk of using it. So far I have not been
able to think of a non military scenario where a fully closed circuit
rebreather makes that cut. So it would be accurate to say that in non
military diving, there is no known reason to use a CCR. For my diving, only
some of the dives make that cut.

The rebreather you have is head and shoulders above that piece of shit being
discussed here, but still fails the above test and still will not pass that
test for what I do , not only because it depends on sensors and gas mixing,
but because it won't last long enough, and I would have to carry all my deco
gases to get the correct decompression, since I long ago proved that
constant ppo2 deco will not work for what I do. Check the abstracts from the
last deco conference to find out why or look on my website.

Our latest contestant in the "idiot and not afraid to put it in writing
show", Mr Bill, is apparently not able to extrapolate my comments into an
answer to his question. Maybe you can steer him along.

As far as your performance with the rb you have, you still don't get it in
the bailout department, but I am assuming that after the last CF with you
involved ( and I am not blaming it on you) you are starting to figure out
the importance of the planning aspects and the importance of avoiding a
SWBS, and I am assuming you understand the importance of a good buddy team.
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here, since you have a history of
showing up on the Singing Pig Squad over and over.

Why don't you take over and deal with this idiot. I am sick of it and need
to go watch CNN.

-----Original Message-----
From: christi5@ix*.ne*.co* [mailto:christi5@ix*.ne*.co*]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:25 AM
To: Bill; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: RE: PROVEN MORONS. wasRE: Inspirational


Bill,
Unlike what George and the rest of his fellow Jerry Springer misfits say
below, I got on here and simply asked a couple of questions - about accident
rates and such, after someone made a comment about them.  I did not say that
CCR is always safer or that OC is always safer - in fact I didn't say
anything at all about safety or even make any statements; I simply asked
another couple of questions.  But since I seem to really get under George's
skin, he came out of hibernation to pounce.  ;-)

I do believe that there are certain situations in which a CCR is safer over
OC (that's why I got mine - a Mk-15).

What I find amazing though is that George is finally admitting it,
backtracking from his stated position for years that CCRs are NOT DIR,
period ("...makes some little quip about how "safe" it is to dive ccr over
oc. Well, that would be true if ...").  So does that finally make CCRs DIR
if his conditions (good buddy team, etc) were met?  Sounds like there may be
a major change brewing in DIR.... CCRs finally accepted after the DIR powers
that be say so?  George?

Cheers, Christina

P.S.  With all of the Inspiration controversy (and everyone knows I'm no
Inspiration fan), I'm surprised that no one has mentioned what is probably
the most problematic design issue of all with this unit.....

P.P.S.  And Chris, you should know better than to fly light planes - they
are just like CCRs in terms of risk.  Just check the NTSB website.


-------Original Message-------
From: Bill <bill.johnstone@te*.ne*>
Sent:
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: PROVEN MORONS. wasRE: Inspirational

>
> George,

I am curious with your statement:

"...Christina gets on here and
makes some little quip about how "safe" it is to dive ccr over oc. Well,
that would be true if the bailout were set up properly, you had a real
buddy
team and not these clowns, if you had proper training and not the weekend
warrior courses that predominate, and of course, the big one, if you had a
decent CCR and not the K Mart "Buddy Inspiration". "

Q. what do you consider a decent CCR rebreather?

I am really not bothered about all the hubris and name calling, I would
like to genuinely hear your views on the subject.

Bill

-------Original Message-------

From: girvine@be*.ne*
Date: Monday, March 17, 2003 02:08:10 AM
To: John R. Strohm; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: PROVEN MORONS wasRE: Inspirational

John, read the part where the one moron leaves the other moron because he
has a smaller diluent bottle. These idiots are basically diving with
"spare
airs". They planned a 500 foot dive where they could not stay down any
longer due to not having enough gas to last 20 minutes with 40:1 ratio.
How
stupid can stupid get? Then that blazing idiot Christina gets on here and
makes some little quip about how "safe" it is to dive ccr over oc. Well,
that would be true if the bailout were set up properly, you had a real
buddy team and not these clowns, if you had proper training and not the
weekend
warrior courses that predominate, and of course, the big one, if you had a
decent CCR and not the K Mart "Buddy Inspiration". Then that begs the
question , "why not use something that actually works and has none of
these
issues", as well the question, "why is this so important to do in the
first
place?".
Bill
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