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Gene, the number of dives you have has nothing to do with it, as you've shown. You get it, and people with many more dives just don't get it. All the flak that DIR/GUE have been getting has been largely based on the delivery, and on the attitude of those who have figured it out. It's really hard not to have that attitude, but we all try. The reason is that it all makes so much sense, it's hard not to just scream "Are you a moron for not getting this? It's as obvious as the nose on your face" As a result, we often hear the term DIReligion thrown around. This is downright funny. As you point out, religion means accepting something without proof. Hence the words "belief, faith, etc.". In fact, asking for proof is heresy, in most religions. In diving however, the DIR system has proven itself over and over. There is no "belief", no "faith", no "pope", just simple facts. All this talk of sucking up, of wanna bees, of religion, all this name calling is just bullshit in the end. What counts is how well the system works when you are diving. So here is my challenge. All of you who keep shooting down this system why don't you try it? Almost everyone who dives DIR used to dive the PADI, TDI etc. way. We have tried both. Why is it that no one ever says "you know, I've tried this DIR thing and it just sucks. I'm going back to deep air, stab jacket, steel stages on both sides, a wetsuit and ankle weights." The reason is that diving DIR is easier, safer, more fun, and much more elegant. On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 09:57 AM, G. A. wrote: > What exactly are "wanna-bees" and how does one avoid them? Are these > the bees that buzz "wannnaaaa...wwaaaannnnaaaa..."? Or is this - the > "Nazi's Wanna Bees" (that being the correct usage of the term > "nazi's")? It is best not to attempt to spell-out colloquial terms > as they are typically passed along verbally and have no meaning when > you attempt to type them phonetically. > > What ARE you trying to say? Try to be clear about your message before > you press send, please. This is as ridiculous as the original > "Nazi's" rubbish. > > BTW - to "pontificate", or to preach, is to place rhetoric and faith > above logic and reason. I see nothing but reason behind the practices > described by George and other proponents of DIR, and yes - I am an > inexperienced diver with 65 dives total. You don't need thousands of > dives to know crap when you hear it. It's called common sense, though > obviously it is an uncommon quality among some. Perhaps the survival > instinct is stronger in some than in others? > > Gene > > > > >> From: JWSAVN@ao*.co* >> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> Subject: Nazi's >> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:02:29 EDT >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Received: from mc3-f37.law16.hotmail.com ([65.54.236.172]) by >> mc3-s18.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, >> 25 Sep 2002 08:49:06 -0700 >> Received: from fulton.opal.com ([198.3.124.1]) by >> mc3-f37.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, >> 25 Sep 2002 08:48:55 -0700 >> Received: (mail@lo*) by fulton.opal.com (8.11.2/jr5.1) for >> techdiver_x@aquanaut.comid g8PF96f17007; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:09:06 >> -0400 >> Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com >> [205.188.157.38]) by fulton.opal.com (8.11.2/jr5.1) with ESMTP for >> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>id g8PE39O16411; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:03:09 >> -0400 >> Received: from JWSAVN@ao*.co* imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) >> id u.2b.2d8ebfcb (25098) for <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Wed, 25 Sep >> 2002 10:02:29 -0400 (EDT) >> Precedence: bulk >> Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com >> Message-ID: <2b.2d8ebfcb.2ac31bf5@ao*.co*> >> X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10641 >> Return-Path: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com >> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2002 15:48:55.0695 (UTC) >> FILETIME=[0E0159F0:01C264AB] >> >> I think Chris Richardson says it well, particularly on the " >> wanna-bees ". My >> issues in the past have not been so much over the message but the >> delivery. I >> do think open water items such as Aluminum 80s vs. steel, year around >> dry >> suite, redundant wings, etc., need review. >> John > > > > > Gene Avakyan > > > --------------------------------------------- > Direct examination of psychologically healthy people shows pretty > clearly that they are positively attracted to the mysterious, to the > unknown, to the puzzling and unexplained. This is noteworthy because > it contrasts sharply with the psychologically sick person's tendency > to be threatened by the unfamiliar, the ambiguous , the unknown. > > Maslow, "The need to know and the fear of knowing" General Journal of > General Psychology. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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