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From: "John R. Strohm" <strohm@ai*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Nazi's
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:06:34 -0500
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OK, John, having spoken up, having said "I do think open water items =
such as Aluminum 80s vs. steel, year around dry suite, redundant wings, =
etc., need review," let's hear your cases on each of

 - Aluminum 80s vs. steel in open water
 - year around [sic] dry suite [sic] in open water
 - redundant wings in open water

You say "etc.," implying that you have other issues as well.  You have =
the floor, we're handing you the rope.  We'll even let you tie your own =
knot before you hang yourself.

And while you're at it...  Trey's background, experience, and track =
record is well-known around the world of net diving.  Yours may not be, =
so it would be useful for us to hear something about your background and =
experience.  What is it about your diving resume that makes you someone =
we should listen to, AS OPPOSED TO TREY?

I mean precisely that.  Where you and Trey agree, we are guaranteed to =
be in accord with you if we just ignore you on those points and listen =
to what Trey has to say.  You appear to disagree with Trey on some =
things, and you appear to think that we should agree with you on them, =
and hence disagree with Trey on those points.  Bluntly: Why should we =
listen to you?

John, this is the test.  When I (as in me personally, in correspondence =
dating back almost seven years now) ask Trey why he does what he does, =
why he recommends what he recommends, he always gives me a detailed =
answer, and he has NEVER given me any kind of extraneous attitude.  You =
are getting the same opportunity to explain, IN DETAIL, why you disagree =
with him.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: JWSAVN@ao*.co*=20
  To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:02 AM
  Subject: Nazi's


  I think Chris Richardson says it well, particularly on the " =
wanna-bees ". My issues in the past have not been so much over the =
message but the delivery. I do think open water items such as Aluminum =
80s vs. steel, year around dry suite, redundant wings, etc., need =
review.
  John=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK, John, having spoken up, having said =
"I do think=20
open water items such as Aluminum 80s vs. steel, year around dry suite,=20
redundant wings, etc., need review," let's hear your cases on each=20
of</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> - Aluminum 80s vs. steel in open=20
water</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> - year around [sic] dry suite =
[sic] in open=20
water</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> - redundant wings in open =
water</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You say "etc.," implying that you have =
other issues=20
as well.  You have the floor, we're handing you the rope.  =
We'll even=20
let you tie your own knot before you hang yourself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And while you're at it...  Trey's =
background,=20
experience, and track record is well-known around the world of net =
diving. =20
Yours may not be, so it would be useful for us to hear something about =
your=20
background and experience.  What is it about your diving resume =
that makes=20
you someone we should listen to, AS OPPOSED TO TREY?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I mean precisely that.  Where you =
and Trey=20
agree, we are guaranteed to be in accord with you if we just ignore you =
on those=20
points and listen to what Trey has to say.  You appear to disagree =
with=20
Trey on some things, and you appear to think that we should agree with =
you on=20
them, and hence disagree with Trey on those points.  Bluntly: Why =
should we=20
listen to you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John, this is the test.  When I =
(as in me=20
personally, in correspondence dating back almost seven years now) ask =
Trey why=20
he does what he does, why he recommends what he recommends, he always =
gives me a=20
detailed answer, and he has NEVER given me any kind of extraneous=20
attitude.  You are getting the same opportunity to explain, IN =
DETAIL, why=20
you disagree with him.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DJWSAVN@ao*.co* =
href=3D"mailto:JWSAVN@ao*.co*">JWSAVN@aol.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September
25, =
2002 9:02=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Nazi's</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I think Chris Richardson says it well, =
particularly on the=20
  " wanna-bees ". My issues in the past have not been so much over the =
message=20
  but the delivery. I do think open water items such as Aluminum 80s vs. =
steel,=20
  year around dry suite, redundant wings, etc., need =
review.<BR>John</FONT>=20
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