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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C24DFE.80861CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I first subscribed to this technical forum because I believed it was a = place I could learn from others who have been diving a lot longer than = I have. However, in the few months I have been on it I have realized that it is = a place where no one dares to talk freely about their own equipment use = or of the problems they have encountered during dives. Surely we are all in the same boat, we want to learn more from each = others successes and failures during dives. No one should be afraid to = talk about anything concerning technical diving. If during you dive last = weekend you encountered a problem this surely should be the place to = talk about it and share it with others, so maybe we can learn from each = others mistakes. Clearly this is not the case at all because we are all afraid of that = word stroke !! We all started from the beginning, strokes maybe. I myself cannot = possibly afford to buy all the correct diving equipment recommended by = the DIR philosophy which I strongly believe is the correct way of diving = in this new era. I have a none diving wife and two young children and = diving is simply a hobby to me. If I went out and bought all the = equipment I believe is best for my dives I would be a single man paying = child support. So for now I must contend to dive with some of my = equipment being substandard until I can afford the parts I want. Should I stop diving until I have every piece of equipment that is DIR = approved. I think Mr. Irvine might say yes, but I say no. I will continue to dive but there are dives I simply cannot do until I = am happy that I have the correct equipment to make my dives as safe as = possible. What is really lacking in this forum is people talking about diving. = Any one who has made over 300 dives must surely have had near misses = underwater. Surely its not a perfect science. I for one want to be able = to read about it, so please lets stop being afraid of the Big Guns = around here who are ready to shoot us dead as soon as we admit to = failure. Two weeks ago I was diving on a wreck I have made over 200 dives on and = believe I know so well and feel so at home on, but I made a fundamental = mistake and broke two rules. I have no excuses for it and I should no = better. I share it with you guys now and hope others may be less afraid to admit = their errors here. I went solo diving and entered a wreck at 40m and made my way to the = engine room. I have been their at least 10 times and know the route = well. It also has a fixed line leading you there and back and is not too = difficult. During my dive there were about 40 other divers on the wreck = all tourists being led by dive schools in the area. While I was in the engine room a group of divers entered one of the = small rooms that I had to pass through on my return to the exit. While = they were in there they completely destroyed the vis and when I came = back into that room I became completely disorientated and for 3 minutes = I was lost and could not find the exit door out even though there was = a fixed line. I held on to the line and repeated to myself over and over = not to panic, I know this room well and I know the exit is there. I did = find it and I survived but had I panicked I may not be here now. Even though there is a permanent line fixed leading from the lower car = deck to the engine room I still should have deployed my own line.=20 I have learnt my lesson perhaps the hard way, and now I share it with = you. Perhaps I may make others like myself who think that being totally = familiar with a wreck doesn't mean you can break the fundamental rules = of penetration. I want to thank all those who answered my request for information on the = VR3. I found what I wanted to know. However thanks to some of you guys I = have come to the conclusion I have no need of this computer. My dives = are square dives, I need only the planner and a slate and a reasonable = back up computer. I will save my money and buy the HID 18 watt which I = have long coveted but never been able to afford. Andre De La Mare (Cyprus) ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C24DFE.80861CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I first subscribed to this technical = forum because=20 I believed it was a place I could learn from others who have been = diving a=20 lot longer than I have.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However, in the few months I have been = on it I have=20 realized that it is a place where no one dares to talk freely about = their own=20 equipment use or of the problems they have encountered during=20 dives.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Surely we are all in the same boat, we = want to=20 learn more from each others successes and failures during dives. No one = should=20 be afraid to talk about anything concerning technical diving. If during = you dive=20 last weekend you encountered a problem this surely should be the place = to talk=20 about it and share it with others, so maybe we can learn from each = others=20 mistakes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clearly this is not the case at all = because we are=20 all afraid of that word stroke !!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We all started from the beginning, = strokes maybe. I=20 myself cannot possibly afford to buy all the correct diving equipment=20 recommended by the DIR philosophy which I strongly believe is the = correct way of=20 diving in this new era. I have a none diving wife and two young children = and=20 diving is simply a hobby to me. If I went out and bought all the = equipment I=20 believe is best for my dives I would be a single man paying child = support. So=20 for now I must contend to dive with some of my equipment being = substandard until=20 I can afford the parts I want.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Should I stop diving until I have every = piece of=20 equipment that is DIR approved. I think Mr. Irvine might say yes, but I = say=20 no.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will continue to dive but there are = dives I=20 simply cannot do until I am happy that I have the correct equipment to = make my=20 dives as safe as possible.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is really lacking in this = forum is=20 people talking about diving. Any one who has made over 300 dives must = surely=20 have had near misses underwater. Surely its not a perfect science. I for = one=20 want to be able to read about it, so please lets stop being afraid of = the Big=20 Guns around here who are ready to shoot us dead as soon as we admit to=20 failure.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Two weeks ago I was diving on a wreck I = have made=20 over 200 dives on and believe I know so well and feel so at home on, but = I made=20 a fundamental mistake and broke two rules. I have no excuses for = it and I=20 should no better.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I share it with you guys now and hope = others may be=20 less afraid to admit their errors here.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I went solo diving and entered a = wreck at 40m=20 and made my way to the engine room. I have been their at least 10 times = and know=20 the route well. It also has a fixed line leading you there and back = and is=20 not too difficult. During my dive there were about 40 other divers on = the wreck=20 all tourists being led by dive schools in the area.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While I was in the engine room a group = of divers=20 entered one of the small rooms that I had to pass through on my return = to the=20 exit. While they were in there they completely destroyed the vis and = when I came=20 back into that room I became completely disorientated and for 3 minutes = I was=20 lost and could not find the exit door out even though there = was a=20 fixed line. I held on to the line and repeated to myself over and over = not to=20 panic, I know this room well and I know the exit is there. I did find it = and I=20 survived but had I panicked I may not be here now.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Even though there is a permanent line = fixed leading=20 from the lower car deck to the engine room I still should have = deployed my=20 own line. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have learnt my lesson perhaps the = hard way, and=20 now I share it with you. Perhaps I may make others like myself who think = that=20 being totally familiar with a wreck doesn't mean you can break the = fundamental=20 rules of penetration.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I want to thank all those who answered = my request=20 for information on the VR3. I found what I wanted to know. However = thanks to=20 some of you guys I have come to the conclusion I have no need of this = computer.=20 My dives are square dives, I need only the planner and a slate and a = reasonable=20 back up computer. I will save my money and buy the HID 18 watt which I = have long=20 coveted but never been able to afford.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andre De La Mare=20 (Cyprus)</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C24DFE.80861CE0-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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