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George, 1 - Sidemounting in sumps 2 - CCRs for 100M+ dives in the ocean. I do neither, you do neither, so the two of us arguing over it would be a wee bit silly. DIR is a very good system and I have learned a lot from JJ's books. I don't believe that it is the only way to dive safely though. Cheers, Simon. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*> To: "Simon Naunton" <snaunton@ho*.co*>; <David@di*.co*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: RE: NEW DIR VIDEO > Simon, tell us all what makes more sense than DIR - pick anything you want > and I will prove you wrong. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Naunton [mailto:snaunton@ho*.co*] > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 2:33 AM > To: David@di*.co* > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: NEW DIR VIDEO > > > David, > > "I don't attribute this to some innate ability that I have - I attribute it > to superior training." > > I agree. However, this does not mean that every non-GUE instuctor is a bad > instructor and it is not really fair to imply the opposite as you have done. > > "For me there is no competition between philosophies - I'm going to do > whatever works best for me to accomplish my goals." > > Me too. I commend you for having that, most un-DIR, attitude. > > "So - answer me this: If you were a new diver choosing an instructor > - do you want the dude hanging on the rope teaching you how to dive, > or do you want the people who taught the guy holding the video camera?" > > The answer is obvious, but, to re-iterate, not all non-GUE instructors are > bad instructors e.g. I have never been anywhere near a GUE instructor, but > my buoyancy appears to be at least as good as yours. And, I know of plenty > of people in the same position as me. > > However, until GUE is firmly established in the recreational (as opposed to > technical) diving space then this is not really a fair comparison to make. I > do agree that your video was a good example of recreational diving > instruction at close to its worse. > > All this aside... nice site... and I am extremely jealous of your orca > experience. > > Cheers, > > Si. > > >From: David Evans <David@di*.co*> > >To: "John P. Butler" <jpbutler@so*.co*> > >CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Subject: Re: NEW DIR VIDEO > >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:08:09 -0700 > > > >John, I have held off on introducing myself to the list, as I wanted to > >observe a bit first. > > > >Let me introduce myself to you. I am the brainwashed DIR cult member that > >shot the video in question. Nice to meet you too. > > > >My wife and I have been diving for 15 months. In that fifteen months, > >we've learned a lot about diving, and we've learned that we have a (whole) > >lot more to learn. > > > >One lesson I learned is that as far as divers go, in fifteen months time I > >can kick the crap out of a PADI Master Instructor in my buoyancy skills. I > >don't attribute this to some innate ability that I have - I attribute it to > >superior training. > > > >We are not technical divers, and we aren't cavers, although we both have > >some interest in developing our skills in this direction, I don't have any > >agenda except to improve as a diver and improve as a photographer, to do > >both safely, and to have big time fun. > > > >For me there is no competition between philosophies - I'm going to do > >whatever works best for me to accomplish my goals. I have been very > >pleased with the RESULTS of my DIR training, which are evident directly > >from this video, and indirectly from my photography (not bad for a guy with > >only a year's experience, don't you think?) > > > >So - answer me this: If you were a new diver choosing an instructor - do > >you want the dude hanging on the rope teaching you how to dive, or do you > >want the people who taught the guy holding the video camera? > > > >We had just come up from the HMCS Columbia - it looks to me like we were > >the ones who belonged there and the PADI Master Instructor was a bit out of > >his league - wouldn't you agree? > > > >I don't know George Irvine at all - never met him. But I have learned from > >the techniques that he, apparently, helped to define and refine. That does > >not make me a cult member - it makes me an educated consumer. > > > >If you have questions about our diving, please email me. I would be happy > >to discuss with you why we dive, how we dive, and what diving means to us. > > > >Thank you very much for you kind understanding. > > > >-David Evans > >www.diveseen.com > >Northwest Underwater Photography and Videography > > > > > > > >On Tuesday, August 13, 2002, at 06:18 PM, John P. Butler wrote: > > > >>Yah, This video spoke to me, too. > >>It told me that the participants were brainwashed DIR cult members who > >>have > >>nothing better to do underwater than make a friggin propaganda video. > >> > >>Tell me what quarry were you diving in? ;O} > >> > >>John > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > Simon Naunton > snaunton@ho*.co* > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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