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From: "Simon Naunton" <snaunton@ho*.co*>
To: David@di*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: NEW DIR VIDEO
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:33:19 +1000
David,

"I don't attribute this to some innate ability that I have - I attribute it 
to superior training."

I agree. However, this does not mean that every non-GUE instuctor is a bad 
instructor and it is not really fair to imply the opposite as you have done.

"For me there is no competition between philosophies - I'm going to do 
whatever works best for me to accomplish my goals."

Me too. I commend you for having that, most un-DIR, attitude.

"So - answer me this:  If you were a new diver choosing an instructor
- do you want the dude hanging on the rope teaching you how to dive,
or do you want the people who taught the guy holding the video camera?"

The answer is obvious, but, to re-iterate, not all non-GUE instructors are 
bad instructors e.g. I have never been anywhere near a GUE instructor, but 
my buoyancy appears to be at least as good as yours. And, I know of plenty 
of people in the same position as me.

However, until GUE is firmly established in the recreational (as opposed to 
technical) diving space then this is not really a fair comparison to make. I 
do agree that your video was a good example of recreational diving 
instruction at close to its worse.

All this aside... nice site... and I am extremely jealous of your orca 
experience.

Cheers,

Si.

>From: David Evans <David@di*.co*>
>To: "John P. Butler" <jpbutler@so*.co*>
>CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Re: NEW DIR VIDEO
>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:08:09 -0700
>
>John, I have held off on introducing myself to the list, as I wanted to 
>observe a bit first.
>
>Let me introduce myself to you.  I am the brainwashed DIR cult member that 
>shot the video in question.  Nice to meet you too.
>
>My wife and I have been diving for 15 months.  In that fifteen months, 
>we've learned a lot about diving, and we've learned that we have a (whole) 
>lot more to learn.
>
>One lesson I learned is that as far as divers go, in fifteen months time I 
>can kick the crap out of a PADI Master Instructor in my buoyancy skills.  I 
>don't attribute this to some innate ability that I have - I attribute it to 
>superior training.
>
>We are not technical divers, and we aren't cavers, although we both have 
>some interest in developing our skills in this direction, I don't have any 
>agenda except to improve as a diver and improve as a photographer, to do 
>both safely, and to have big time fun.
>
>For me there is no competition between philosophies - I'm going to do 
>whatever works best for me to accomplish my goals.  I have been very 
>pleased with the RESULTS of my DIR training, which are evident directly 
>from this video, and indirectly from my photography (not bad for a guy with 
>only a year's experience, don't you think?)
>
>So - answer me this:  If you were a new diver choosing an instructor - do 
>you want the dude hanging on the rope teaching you how to dive, or do you 
>want the people who taught the guy holding the video camera?
>
>We had just come up from the HMCS Columbia - it looks to me like we were 
>the ones who belonged there and the PADI Master Instructor was a bit out of 
>his league - wouldn't you agree?
>
>I don't know George Irvine at all - never met him.  But I have learned from 
>the techniques that he, apparently, helped to define and refine.  That does 
>not make me a cult member - it makes me an educated consumer.
>
>If you have questions about our diving, please email me.  I would be happy 
>to discuss with you why we dive, how we dive, and what diving means to us.
>
>Thank you very much for you kind understanding.
>
>-David Evans
>www.diveseen.com
>Northwest Underwater Photography and Videography
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, August 13, 2002, at 06:18 PM, John P. Butler wrote:
>
>>Yah, This video spoke to me, too.
>>It told me that the participants were brainwashed DIR cult members who 
>>have
>>nothing better to do underwater than make a friggin propaganda video.
>>
>>Tell me what quarry were you diving in? ;O}
>>
>>John
>
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