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From: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
To: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>, "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:13:10 -0400
Give it a rest guys.
C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>
To: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>; "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech


> "I said I consider myself as failed the class"
>
> OK JT.  That much we agree on.  So lets really cut to the chase and stop
the
> smoke screen nonsense.  Artifacts, scooters and dirty little secrets have
> nothing to do with this thread and you are using them as a distraction
from
> the real issues.
>
> Explain to all of us why you keep avoiding the original topics which among
> other things included a discussion about the methodology employed when
drift
> diving.  If you recall, I wanted to know why you would anchor into a wreck
> with an inoperable chase boat instead of live boating.
>
> I also would like to know why if YOU are doing a "big" dive you make sure
> the chase boat is in good working order but the norm is for it to be in a
> state of disrepair.  Is your life more valuable than that of your paying
> passengers?
>
> By virtue your email footer it is clear that you attempt to promote
yourself
> as some form of wreck diving guru.  Yet you cannot pass muster on
something
> simple like buoyancy control and get flustered if they take away your
mask.
> I would bet that if a customer failed as you did you would be real quick
to
> limit his diving.
>
> The problems you described on your scooter clearly indicate that you
haven't
> the foggiest clue as to how they work.  I know I am correct because my
bird
> called me last night and told me that you shouldn't be scooter diving.  He
> said that the chimp was pretty smart but that you wouldn't listen to him.
>
> After all of this, you still have the gall to get on these lists and boast
> about 400 ft. scooter dives.  You really should follow your own advice and
> get off the net and into the water.
>
> Also, you use "  Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast &
> more  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/" in your email footer.  Who in
their
> right mind would let you guide them anywhere?
>
> Quit the smoke and mirrors game and answer the questions or shut up and
sit
> in the corner.
>
> Regards.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> To: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>; "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
>
>
> > You got me on that, I said I consider myself as failed the class, even
> > though there is no pass or fail, I said it so it must be true, just like
> > everything else I say.........don't you get the picture or are you so
much
> > of a lair you will be anything to cover your friends.
> >
> > I have a picture that Seawolf sent me of one of the portholes being sent
> up
> > and he named the jpg, " Gov. Artifact Theft" . That should say it all
> right
> > there...........
> >
> >
> >    At 02:13 PM 8/1/02 -0700, Joe wrote:
> > >Let me see if I have this right.  You are unable to address any of the
> > >issues re your incompetence (failed Fundamentals - BTW that is kind of
> like
> > >flunking out of kindergarten) so you change the subject and whine about
> > >scooter problems that a chimp could fix.
> > >
> > >Now, after you publicly admit that you can't dive (no basic inwater
> skills)
> > >and have no clue as to how your scooter works, (as evidenced by this
> post)
> > >and yet you boast about taking it on a 400' dive.  You sure set a great
> > >example.
> > >
> > >I will help you out on this.  I am sending my talking macaw up there to
> tell
> > >you how to fix the scooters.  Pay close attention to everything he says
> > >because he is much smarter than the chimp.  After he gets you squared
> away
> > >on the scooter, he can coach you on your next big dive.
> > >
> > >Regards.
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >PS- The bird really likes peanuts.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > >To: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
> > >Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:23 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> > >
> > >
> > > > George, make any suggestion you want, it matters not to me. But you
> can
> > > > help us up here. We are having some problems with your scooters and
> the
> > > > guys are a bit reluctant about asking you how to fix them. 2 of them
> the
> > > > clutch is slipping and the trigger keeps coming off of one. Any
> > >suggestions
> > > > on the clutch problem, the scooters are unusable at this time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    At 09:21 PM 7/30/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
> > > > >JT, let's cut to the chase here: everytime I make a suggestion ,
you
> want
> > > > >to fight about it while ignoring the suggestion. If anyone else
makes
> the
> > > > >same suggestion, you want to "challenge" them to a dive.  Just ague
> the
> > > > >suggestion, not what you think I do or did or what anyone else does
.
> > > > >
> > > > >Everytime there is a real idiot, like the guy on the Seeker who
wants
> to
> > >do
> > > > >battle with me or my friends, you want to defend them. If you want
to
> > >keep
> > > > >doing that, take it off line. You can express your paranoia and
your
> > > > >concern about my "agenda" without wasting everyone else's time.
> > > > >
> > > > >You are so upset that people listen to me, and you are especially
> > >concerned
> > > > >if they buy some piece of gear that I use. Why don't you take over
> for me
> > > > >and show everyone what the good stuff is? ( I can answer why you do
> not
> > >and
> > > > >why nobody listens to you - you don't have any and you don't know).
> But
> > >you
> > > > >can stay all upset about it. Most of the jerks who want to fight
with
> me
> > >all
> > > > >the time have the same beef, only no better answers.
> > > > >
> > > > >You get on here year after year with stories of deaths , accidents
> and
> > > > >clusterfucks with your latest "confession" ( like failing
> Fundamentals),
> > > > >and then go do the same things over and over and over again while
> > >expecting
> > > > >different results. Then you want to assume that everyone else has
the
> > >same
> > > > >self-imposed problems, and go into paranoia mode about it.
> > > > >
> > > > >You need to worry about yourself. You are not qualified to worry
> about
> > > > >anyone else. By the way, your "tough guy" attitude about diving is
> Page
> > >One
> > > > >definition of a stroke.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > > > >Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:43 PM
> > > > >To: girvine@be*.ne*
> > > > >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; vbtech@ci*.co*
> > > > >Subject: RE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I see the truth really gets to you, blows your cover of doing
> everything
> > > > >right and by the book. I am the biggest thorn in your back because
I
> just
> > > > >tell the truth, nothing more. I do not have to claim to dive in
28ft
> seas
> > > > >(funny how it was reduced to a mere 19ft at the next DIR class and
> then
> > > > >increased the deep dive of 475ft to the following) or do 575ft
dives
> to
> > > > >impress the class, most students are of the new type and just eager
> to
> > >fit
> > > > >in with someone or group and believe anything. I've been around
> awhile
> > >and
> > > > >tend to check out the facts or just laugh at the obvious.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get
> in
> > >the
> > > > water"
> > > > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> > > >   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> > > > Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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