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From: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>
To: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>, "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:12:29 -0700
"I said I consider myself as failed the class"

OK JT.  That much we agree on.  So lets really cut to the chase and stop the
smoke screen nonsense.  Artifacts, scooters and dirty little secrets have
nothing to do with this thread and you are using them as a distraction from
the real issues.

Explain to all of us why you keep avoiding the original topics which among
other things included a discussion about the methodology employed when drift
diving.  If you recall, I wanted to know why you would anchor into a wreck
with an inoperable chase boat instead of live boating.

I also would like to know why if YOU are doing a "big" dive you make sure
the chase boat is in good working order but the norm is for it to be in a
state of disrepair.  Is your life more valuable than that of your paying
passengers?

By virtue your email footer it is clear that you attempt to promote yourself
as some form of wreck diving guru.  Yet you cannot pass muster on something
simple like buoyancy control and get flustered if they take away your mask.
I would bet that if a customer failed as you did you would be real quick to
limit his diving.

The problems you described on your scooter clearly indicate that you haven't
the foggiest clue as to how they work.  I know I am correct because my bird
called me last night and told me that you shouldn't be scooter diving.  He
said that the chimp was pretty smart but that you wouldn't listen to him.

After all of this, you still have the gall to get on these lists and boast
about 400 ft. scooter dives.  You really should follow your own advice and
get off the net and into the water.

Also, you use "  Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast &
more  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/" in your email footer.  Who in their
right mind would let you guide them anywhere?

Quit the smoke and mirrors game and answer the questions or shut up and sit
in the corner.

Regards.

Joe




----- Original Message -----
From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
To: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>; "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech


> You got me on that, I said I consider myself as failed the class, even
> though there is no pass or fail, I said it so it must be true, just like
> everything else I say.........don't you get the picture or are you so much
> of a lair you will be anything to cover your friends.
>
> I have a picture that Seawolf sent me of one of the portholes being sent
up
> and he named the jpg, " Gov. Artifact Theft" . That should say it all
right
> there...........
>
>
>    At 02:13 PM 8/1/02 -0700, Joe wrote:
> >Let me see if I have this right.  You are unable to address any of the
> >issues re your incompetence (failed Fundamentals - BTW that is kind of
like
> >flunking out of kindergarten) so you change the subject and whine about
> >scooter problems that a chimp could fix.
> >
> >Now, after you publicly admit that you can't dive (no basic inwater
skills)
> >and have no clue as to how your scooter works, (as evidenced by this
post)
> >and yet you boast about taking it on a 400' dive.  You sure set a great
> >example.
> >
> >I will help you out on this.  I am sending my talking macaw up there to
tell
> >you how to fix the scooters.  Pay close attention to everything he says
> >because he is much smarter than the chimp.  After he gets you squared
away
> >on the scooter, he can coach you on your next big dive.
> >
> >Regards.
> >
> >Joe
> >PS- The bird really likes peanuts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> >To: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
> >Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:23 PM
> >Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >
> >
> > > George, make any suggestion you want, it matters not to me. But you
can
> > > help us up here. We are having some problems with your scooters and
the
> > > guys are a bit reluctant about asking you how to fix them. 2 of them
the
> > > clutch is slipping and the trigger keeps coming off of one. Any
> >suggestions
> > > on the clutch problem, the scooters are unusable at this time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    At 09:21 PM 7/30/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
> > > >JT, let's cut to the chase here: everytime I make a suggestion , you
want
> > > >to fight about it while ignoring the suggestion. If anyone else makes
the
> > > >same suggestion, you want to "challenge" them to a dive.  Just ague
the
> > > >suggestion, not what you think I do or did or what anyone else does .
> > > >
> > > >Everytime there is a real idiot, like the guy on the Seeker who wants
to
> >do
> > > >battle with me or my friends, you want to defend them. If you want to
> >keep
> > > >doing that, take it off line. You can express your paranoia and your
> > > >concern about my "agenda" without wasting everyone else's time.
> > > >
> > > >You are so upset that people listen to me, and you are especially
> >concerned
> > > >if they buy some piece of gear that I use. Why don't you take over
for me
> > > >and show everyone what the good stuff is? ( I can answer why you do
not
> >and
> > > >why nobody listens to you - you don't have any and you don't know).
But
> >you
> > > >can stay all upset about it. Most of the jerks who want to fight with
me
> >all
> > > >the time have the same beef, only no better answers.
> > > >
> > > >You get on here year after year with stories of deaths , accidents
and
> > > >clusterfucks with your latest "confession" ( like failing
Fundamentals),
> > > >and then go do the same things over and over and over again while
> >expecting
> > > >different results. Then you want to assume that everyone else has the
> >same
> > > >self-imposed problems, and go into paranoia mode about it.
> > > >
> > > >You need to worry about yourself. You are not qualified to worry
about
> > > >anyone else. By the way, your "tough guy" attitude about diving is
Page
> >One
> > > >definition of a stroke.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > > >Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:43 PM
> > > >To: girvine@be*.ne*
> > > >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; vbtech@ci*.co*
> > > >Subject: RE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I see the truth really gets to you, blows your cover of doing
everything
> > > >right and by the book. I am the biggest thorn in your back because I
just
> > > >tell the truth, nothing more. I do not have to claim to dive in 28ft
seas
> > > >(funny how it was reduced to a mere 19ft at the next DIR class and
then
> > > >increased the deep dive of 475ft to the following) or do 575ft dives
to
> > > >impress the class, most students are of the new type and just eager
to
> >fit
> > > >in with someone or group and believe anything. I've been around
awhile
> >and
> > > >tend to check out the facts or just laugh at the obvious.
> > >
> > >
> > > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get
in
> >the
> > > water"
> > > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> > >   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> > > Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> > >
> > >
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>
> "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the
> water"
> Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>
>
>
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