Well, well.  If it isn't Oliver Hardy.  Stan Laurel has his ass in a sling
so you have to bail him out.  I'm not the big shot Captain with the web site
telling the world how great I am.  My "bonafides" aren't even in the
equasion.  I never claimed to be a hot shot diver.  JT has a web site so I
guess that makes him an expert.  I just want him to validate his claims but
it seems he can't.

I am still waiting for an answer to the questions I asked.  You just keep
blowing smoke but duck the questions.  You said:

 >>>> On the ML the zodiac is on the upper deck with a small boom
>>>> winch to deploy/sto the unit. It is rarely used, and you now what
>>>> >>>that means as far at the motor in concerned.

Your words, not mine.  To me that is a state of disrepair.

Well, I'm off to do a weekend of diving so I have no more time to play here.

Regards.

Joe

BTW - Trust me on this - I'm just a guy that loves to dive - it is not my
business - and I am tired off seeing the sport screwed up by jackoffs like
JT - but neither of you guys could qualify to carry my tanks.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>
Cc: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; "VB Tech"
<vbtech@ci*.co*>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech


> All right, let's cut the bullshit, Joe. You are lying now. First off I
> said that the chase boat on this particular dive boat is hard to deploy,
> not "in a state of disrepair". Also I said that JT ensures the chase
> boat is running, fueled and ready before even leaving the dock.
>
> I will also add that, unlike your pussy 100' vis 10min boat ride florida
> dives (done in wetsuits with steel tanks, from all the pictures I've
> seen on Barnett's web site), the tech dives up here take hours to get
> to, most of the time through big seas.
>
> Tech dives up here take days of planning and coordination and are not
> considered afternoon larks like you FL divers. The dives are deep, dark
> and cold. You could spend weeks preparing, be geared up, tanked up with
> HE the night before and have the dive called. What do you do then? You
> suck it up and get ready for the next trip.
>
> You Florida knuckleheads would be whining and moaning the whole way.
> Everytime you MF's come up here you spend the whole trip out and back
> barfing over the side rolled up in a green ball.
>
> And, Joe, what exactly are *your* bonafides? JT has an entire website
> with hundreds of pictures and hundreds of witnesses who can state
> exactly what kind of diver he is. You can criticize him all you want but
> you don't do the number of dives JT does and survive out of sheer
> chance. JT has a track record of planning, executing and surviving
> hundreds of dives of all depths in all conditions.
>
> You, on the other hand, nobody has never heard of, has no track record
> of any kind and appears to be a sock puppet for Barnett and company. How
> pitiful. I did some snooping on the internet and cannot find a single
> bit of information on anything to do with you and diving.
>
> (I know, I know, now you are going to pull out the "oh look at Cobb, who
> quit diving running his mouth again". Well at least when I dove I told
> the truth and didn't sit there with some puppetmaster pulling my
> strings. Sure George and I collaborated on a couple of projects on this
> list that needed working on, but I never said anything that did not need
> saying.)
>
> So, Joe, why don't you sit down and shut the fuck up until you can
> prove, as JT has done, that you actually dive, that you dive in
> something other than than gin-clear bathtubs and have planned, setup,
> paid for and run multi-day technical dives? Maybe you do, maybe you
> don't. Nobody knows. Do you fish or do you chop bait? Let's see your
> cards, buddy. Just who the fuck are *you*?
>
>     Jim
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 06:12 PM, Joe wrote:
>
> > "I said I consider myself as failed the class"
> >
> > OK JT.  That much we agree on.  So lets really cut to the chase and
> > stop the
> > smoke screen nonsense.  Artifacts, scooters and dirty little secrets
> > have
> > nothing to do with this thread and you are using them as a distraction
> > from
> > the real issues.
> >
> > Explain to all of us why you keep avoiding the original topics which
> > among
> > other things included a discussion about the methodology employed when
> > drift
> > diving.  If you recall, I wanted to know why you would anchor into a
> > wreck
> > with an inoperable chase boat instead of live boating.
> >
> > I also would like to know why if YOU are doing a "big" dive you make
> > sure
> > the chase boat is in good working order but the norm is for it to be
> > in a
> > state of disrepair.  Is your life more valuable than that of your paying
> > passengers?
> >
> > By virtue your email footer it is clear that you attempt to promote
> > yourself
> > as some form of wreck diving guru.  Yet you cannot pass muster on
> > something
> > simple like buoyancy control and get flustered if they take away your
> > mask.
> > I would bet that if a customer failed as you did you would be real
> > quick to
> > limit his diving.
> >
> > The problems you described on your scooter clearly indicate that you
> > haven't
> > the foggiest clue as to how they work.  I know I am correct because my
> > bird
> > called me last night and told me that you shouldn't be scooter diving.
> > He
> > said that the chimp was pretty smart but that you wouldn't listen to
> > him.
> >
> > After all of this, you still have the gall to get on these lists and
> > boast
> > about 400 ft. scooter dives.  You really should follow your own advice
> > and
> > get off the net and into the water.
> >
> > Also, you use "  Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast &
> > more  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/" in your email footer.  Who in
> > their
> > right mind would let you guide them anywhere?
> >
> > Quit the smoke and mirrors game and answer the questions or shut up and
> > sit
> > in the corner.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > To: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>; "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >
> >
> >> You got me on that, I said I consider myself as failed the class, even
> >> though there is no pass or fail, I said it so it must be true, just
> >> like
> >> everything else I say.........don't you get the picture or are you so
> >> much
> >> of a lair you will be anything to cover your friends.
> >>
> >> I have a picture that Seawolf sent me of one of the portholes being
> >> sent
> > up
> >> and he named the jpg, " Gov. Artifact Theft" . That should say it all
> > right
> >> there...........
> >>
> >>
> >>    At 02:13 PM 8/1/02 -0700, Joe wrote:
> >>> Let me see if I have this right.  You are unable to address any of the
> >>> issues re your incompetence (failed Fundamentals - BTW that is kind of
> > like
> >>> flunking out of kindergarten) so you change the subject and whine
> >>> about
> >>> scooter problems that a chimp could fix.
> >>>
> >>> Now, after you publicly admit that you can't dive (no basic inwater
> > skills)
> >>> and have no clue as to how your scooter works, (as evidenced by this
> > post)
> >>> and yet you boast about taking it on a 400' dive.  You sure set a
> >>> great
> >>> example.
> >>>
> >>> I will help you out on this.  I am sending my talking macaw up there
> >>> to
> > tell
> >>> you how to fix the scooters.  Pay close attention to everything he
> >>> says
> >>> because he is much smarter than the chimp.  After he gets you squared
> > away
> >>> on the scooter, he can coach you on your next big dive.
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>> PS- The bird really likes peanuts.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> >>> To: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
> >>> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:23 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> George, make any suggestion you want, it matters not to me. But you
> > can
> >>>> help us up here. We are having some problems with your scooters and
> > the
> >>>> guys are a bit reluctant about asking you how to fix them. 2 of them
> > the
> >>>> clutch is slipping and the trigger keeps coming off of one. Any
> >>> suggestions
> >>>> on the clutch problem, the scooters are unusable at this time.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    At 09:21 PM 7/30/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
> >>>>> JT, let's cut to the chase here: everytime I make a suggestion , you
> > want
> >>>>> to fight about it while ignoring the suggestion. If anyone else
> >>>>> makes
> > the
> >>>>> same suggestion, you want to "challenge" them to a dive.  Just ague
> > the
> >>>>> suggestion, not what you think I do or did or what anyone else
> >>>>> does .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Everytime there is a real idiot, like the guy on the Seeker who
> >>>>> wants
> > to
> >>> do
> >>>>> battle with me or my friends, you want to defend them. If you want
> >>>>> to
> >>> keep
> >>>>> doing that, take it off line. You can express your paranoia and your
> >>>>> concern about my "agenda" without wasting everyone else's time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are so upset that people listen to me, and you are especially
> >>> concerned
> >>>>> if they buy some piece of gear that I use. Why don't you take over
> > for me
> >>>>> and show everyone what the good stuff is? ( I can answer why you do
> > not
> >>> and
> >>>>> why nobody listens to you - you don't have any and you don't know).
> > But
> >>> you
> >>>>> can stay all upset about it. Most of the jerks who want to fight
> >>>>> with
> > me
> >>> all
> >>>>> the time have the same beef, only no better answers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You get on here year after year with stories of deaths , accidents
> > and
> >>>>> clusterfucks with your latest "confession" ( like failing
> > Fundamentals),
> >>>>> and then go do the same things over and over and over again while
> >>> expecting
> >>>>> different results. Then you want to assume that everyone else has
> >>>>> the
> >>> same
> >>>>> self-imposed problems, and go into paranoia mode about it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You need to worry about yourself. You are not qualified to worry
> > about
> >>>>> anyone else. By the way, your "tough guy" attitude about diving is
> > Page
> >>> One
> >>>>> definition of a stroke.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:43 PM
> >>>>> To: girvine@be*.ne*
> >>>>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; vbtech@ci*.co*
> >>>>> Subject: RE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see the truth really gets to you, blows your cover of doing
> > everything
> >>>>> right and by the book. I am the biggest thorn in your back because I
> > just
> >>>>> tell the truth, nothing more. I do not have to claim to dive in 28ft
> > seas
> >>>>> (funny how it was reduced to a mere 19ft at the next DIR class and
> > then
> >>>>> increased the deep dive of 475ft to the following) or do 575ft dives
> > to
> >>>>> impress the class, most students are of the new type and just eager
> > to
> >>> fit
> >>>>> in with someone or group and believe anything. I've been around
> > awhile
> >>> and
> >>>>> tend to check out the facts or just laugh at the obvious.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get
> > in
> >>> the
> >>>> water"
> >>>> Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> >>>>   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> >>>> Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >> "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
> > the
> >> water"
> >> Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> >>   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> >> Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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