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--EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__071891edae442e38f723ae4159631d1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you, Capt'n I couldn't have found a better way to support myself. Judging from your ability to express yourself in such as clean, and intelligent manner, I can tell that your a well educated, brilliant person, dripping with class. From your demeanor I can tell that you are the True Diving prima donna. I stand in awe of your abilities, Capt'n. You are the fount of knowledge, a true master. Or Perhaps (as is evident) it's just arrogance. Capt'n, I encourage you to reexamine you calling in life, perhaps theirs a neighborhood pool you could tend to, and leave the real work to the pros. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe your not an example of the Peter principle, but I doubt it. Thank you again, -=Justin ps, Capt'n - request denied. Think before you send. --- On Fri 07/26, Capt JT wrote: From: Capt JT [mailto: captjt@mi*.co*] To: amidon3@ex*.co* Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:49:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons Learned > > He wants to stick his nose out there, I can deal with him, you are a > pussy and do it in private. > Hey asshole, I don't own the boat, I don't need them customers.......I'm > the guy that deals with the pussies like you, Todd, and Hunter.......I > keep you from killing yourself or someone else......... > > > > At 12:13 PM 7/26/02 -0400, you wrote: > > Capt Jackass > > What do you hope to gain by posting this? > If your a business man, why would you walk around pissing on potential > customers? Maybe you their not ready to go out, today but they will one > day. > > I personally look forward to reading postings by George Irvine. The man > is amazing, knows his shit hands down. Who are you? You drive a boat > around and beat your chest, to those you listen or might give a shit. > Swallow you pride and listen to those who do know their shit, sometimes > it OK not to know something. Learn from the man, It may save a > life. > > -=Justin > > > --- On Thu 07/25, Capt JT wrote: > From: Capt JT [mailto: captjt@mi*.co*] > To: VBTech@ci*.co* > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:26:48 -0400 > Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons Learned > > > > > > > > Look neophyte, I have been getting emails from you for months > like > > this: > > > > > > At 09:44 AM 6/26/02 -0400, you wrote: > > > > Jt, > > > My name is Brian Hunter, I don't know if you remember talking to > me > > awhile ago but I now live in Va.(Dahlgren Navy base). I would like > to > > know if we could get together and go diving. My ph# is > 540-xxxxxxxxxx I > > would appreciate a call to discuss a chance to go diving with your > group. > > Just so you know I am DIR, and always looking to be better. > > > Thank you and looking forward to hearing from you. > > > Brian Hunter > > > > > > > > > , begging me to take you out diving with us and I tell you to just > get on > > the boat on a weenie dive first. I base my decision on this: > > > > > > At 10:51 PM 1/23/02 -0600, Brian Hunter wrote: > > > > color="#0000FF"> > > I myself am new to tech diving > > > > > > Look, the neophytes like you who keep jumping on the band > wagon of > > DIR don't have the experience for a real dive and unless you > are > > protected and watched out for you will do shit like Todd. The only > thing > > he lacked to be in Star Wars in his predive check, was one of > them > > answering "ROGER ROGER". > > > > > > I don't need anymore babies to sit.........get some experience > > first. > > > > > > > > > At 04:40 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Brian Hunter wrote: > > > > Who gives a fuck > how > > deep you dive! It's not about depth, it's about FUN and SAFETY! > SAFETY! > > Get it SAFETY one more time so your dumbass will get it SAFETY. > After all > > I'm hearing I don't know if I really want to dive with you. I think > I > > will listen to George, you're a fuck up. > > > > > > Brian Hunter > > > DIR Always > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Capt JT > > > To: VBTech list > > > Cc: 'Allyson' ; > > trey@my*.ne* > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 10:02 PM > > > Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons > > Learned > > > > > > > > > > > I see you are trying to narrow down the playing field, dropped all > > list but VBtech and of course George, your ego is to thin, your > leading a > > group of quarry divers, you have only 7 ocean dives this year 2 > were on > > Sunday and 3 the weekend before, 2 in April....... nothing past > 130ft , > > your a weenie diver...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:51 PM 7/24/02 -0400, Capt JT > > wrote: > > > Your so fucked up, I've been waiting for this, you have the wrong > > Bob. I saw that right away in your emails and was laughing my > ass off, > > you don't know who's who or what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08:16 PM 7/24/02 -0400, Todd Clagett > > wrote: > > cite> > > > This is pretty funny. Your ego got damaged because I told you > > Stella and Bob were not ready to do the Barque (250'). You > then > > started to pull out everything that we had ever done wrong. I > > admit, I have done plenty wrong in the water. It was mostly when > I > > was listening to the VB tech crowd. The fact is you are mad > becasue > > people see the stupid things you do as just that, STUPID. > > > > > > I guess you are the one who let Bob go to the bottom on the Ethel > C. > > with a stage bottle of O2 turned completely on because he didn't > have the > > correct regulator? Or was that somebody else. I thought you > > would take my advice when I said these folks weren't ready, but > you took > > it personal for some reason. I make mistakes and so do all > others I > > know. You better be ready to react to the mistakes when they > > happen. > > > > > You always say your good judgement saved Becky when she ox-toxed on > > the Doria (because you paired her with Rick). How many dives > in > > doubles did she have? I recall seeing her on the boat about 3 > weeks > > before in doubles for the first time. I would say your good > > judgement almos killed a very nice girl! You don't get it now > and > > you never will. > > > > > Allyson did not have her isolator closed. It wouldn't matter if > > she did though, we would have handled that too! I doubt you > would > > have been close enough to help had you been her buddy. It > would > > have been another "heart attack". > > > > > The only thing I said on the boat was that we were in a gas sharing > > situation and then the daltons went back for some of my gear. > Jeff > > said "why the fuck were you gas sharing for a reg > > failure?" I replied......She wants fucking gas, she gets > > gas. End of story. Why does this have to be a > > conspiracy? You are paranoid man, chill out. I have nothing > > to gain by lying, mainly because it doesn't matter. Diving > doesn't > > define me, validate me, or justify me like it does you. I think > you > > better learn how to dive a little better since it validates your > life so > > much. > > > > > Tell me about boat captains and when they can dive and sleep. I > > am really interested to hear this one. > > > > > Todd > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: VBTech list > > [ > > eudora="autourl">mailto:VBTech@ci*.co*]On > > Behalf Of Capt JT > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:37 PM > > > To: VBTech list > > > Cc: Allyson; trey@my*.ne*; andrewg@fi*.co*; > > techdiver@aquanaut.com > > > Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons > > Learned > > > > > > > > > > > Funny thing about egos, you push them enough and they will come > > out.........the fact is Todd came up and told what happen(most > divers do > > at first and then change the story to save their egos), you and > I assume > > Todd were doing this new DIR drill you think you've learned and > some how > > you left the boat with your isolator and your back up reg closed > only > > breathing off your primary. At about 20mins (which is right for > your size > > tanks and SAC) you ran out of gas, > switched to your back up and got > > shit........ In the panic once you got on Todd's gas started > back to the > > anchor, this is where I'm waiting for someone to put the real > story > > together from the posted story it ain't hard to do, all they > have to do > > is read and put the pieces together. > > > > > > > > > > > The fact is I saw the email that Todd challenged Dave to go public > on > > these list about who you did not want to go on some > trips......... I > > wanted it to happen, Dave did not as not to put names on the > > list.........I could give a fuck........ So when Todd started > his little > > private cc posting I smashed all your dicks (even though you > don't have > > one) with the truth about your skills and past history, we have > been > > protecting you guys all the time and I knew it would be just a > matter of > > time before you fucked up and Dave nor I was there to correct > it. Funny, > > the divers you were worried about did fine.........you guys have > the > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another noticeable thing..........you now include the > VBtech > > list, Dalton didn't because he knew that some on the boat are > only on > > that list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 06:30 PM 7/24/02 -0400, Allyson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am absolutely in awe over how obtuse you are. Who the hell do you > > think you are talking to? This is me, JT. Dalton didn't write > about some > > of the details you mention because they didn't happen to him, > not because > > he is trying to protect our "frail egos" or > "cover > > [anything] up," please! I do not give a flying f*@% about > anyone's > > ego. Todd and I will be glad to talk about those details that > you say > > were suspiciously left out, and we plan on it. We'll talk > about > > *everything.* > > > Do you think I actually jumped off the boat into 118fsw with no > > valves on? If you think that was ever a possibility from me you > should > > have never invited me on the trips that you have lead. You must > not think > > much of me at all to even think that a possibility and I must be > some > > sort of super diver with a SAC rate of almost zero to be able to > stay on > > the bottom for 17 minutes with two off valves and then to > continue on my > > own accord through my slow ascent/decompression; that would make > me some > > sort of physiological oddity. Why didn't you just ask me what > happened > > before you came to the table with your plate full of usual > tired > > misinformed rhetoric? I see that you are chomping at the bit to > confront > > us and that is amusing. I suggest you get off your "high > horse" > > before you get knocked off. Your attitude is sickening. Is this > what you > > do to validate yourself? > > > > > > > > > > > Before each dive we have been checking every facet of our gear and > > ensuring that it is operational because we subscribe to the > belief that > > what each of us is carrying belongs to the entire team. After > our team > > checks, everything on my person was operational and behaving as > it > > should, including my SPG, the needle never bounced when I took > not 3 but > > 6 breaths from my back up reg on the surface, the extra 3 > breaths were > > done to satisfy my buddy because he didn't witness me do it the > first > > time. You have no idea what happened to me, not the > foggiest...do you > > know how I know this? Because we didn't tell anyone on the boat > what > > happened to me except that we shared air--we were intentionally > unclear > > because no one on the boat cared for one another as evidenced by > the > > completely unprofessional cluster f*@% that later occurred and > the > > misinformation regarding me that you received from your > "drooling > > informants." > > > > > > > > > > > I have put my heart and soul into this sport because I respect the > > fact that the ocean is not my natural environment and that > mother nature > > can be a real bitch. There was no panic on our parts, a detail > that you > > must have just made up. Panic will get one killed. Remedying > *my* > > situation went smoothly because we took the philosophy and the > procedures > > that AG and MHK taught and used them and that includes the > countless > > hours me and my buddies have spent in the quarry practicing and > preparing > > for "real dives" and any situations that arise on > those dives. > > My brief moment of not being able to access my gas did not even > upset me > > because I knew my buddy, Todd, would be there for me once I > alerted him, > > and he was in my face instantly watching me make a reg switch > and when he > > saw I wasn't satisfied with that solution he had gas in my mouth > in > > seconds and it was executed calmly. There is something to be > said about > > having a procedure in place to handle would be emergencies. And > I was > > also aware of the fact that it was an impossibility for me to > actually be > > out of gas. I can't stress how crucial superb buddy skills are > to the > > diving system. One interesting aspect of the DIR system is that > whether > > my equipment failed me or I failed myself there was still > another safe > > way out. > > > > > > > > > > > And, JT, I write this knowing full well that you will put this in > > your Allyson Clagett email file so that you can throw it back in > my face > > when it's convenient for you to do so and most probably attempt > to poke a > > hole through every thing I or my buddies say. What kind of > person does > > that? Better yet, what kind of *friend* does that? If you > actually have > > some constructive criticism I will welcome it with open arms but > at this > > point I am not hopeful that is what your intentions are. I will > save you > > the trouble of publicly publishing this by doing so myself. If > you ever > > want to have a real conversation with me, like a mature adult > would do, > > and not the nonsensical Internet bully email crap that has > become your > > style you have my phone number. I'll happily speak with you--but > I'll > > never dive with you again your general attitude sucks and GI is > right, > > yet again, you are obstinate... but I believe his exact words > were hard > > headed and incapable of learning. > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Internet diving, JT, I know you enjoy it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Capt JT > > [ > > eudora="autourl">mailto:captjt@mi*.co*] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 4:22 PM > > > > > > > > > > > To: dmdalton > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: allysonlc@ea*.ne*; toddclagett@ea*.ne* > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons > > Learned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave, I have read your report and I have been informed by others on > > > the > > > boat what really went down. I am answering this private and will at > > this > > > > > > > > > > > point keep it that way until you are not able to cover the flack > > I > > > > > > > > > > > suspect will come from the report on techdiver. Several important > > details > > > > > > > > > > > you left out to cover ones egos, shut off valves(not 1 but 2) , > > panic, > > > > > > > > > > > drifting away when no one else had a problem with the current, > > > > > > > > > > > ect.......... and are suggesting that the BOAT should have done > > something > > > > > > > > > > > different, when all problems were caused by the divers themselves. > > Cover > > > > > > > > > > > your own egos best you can if any questions start and cover the > boat > > or I > > > > > > > > > > > will........I know what really happened, this is one you should not > > have > > > > > > > > > > > posted, you guys are too "thin skinned" to handle a > > seasoned diver drilling > > > > > > > > > > > this report. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 10:37 AM 7/23/02 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Trip report: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sunday, July 21, 2002 found 4 Nova Tech divers diving > > > > > > > > > > > >out of Virginia Beach, VA on the Miss Lindsey with > > > > > > > > > > > >others with whom they regularly dive of the VB Tech > > > > > > > > > > > >group. Nova Tech group divers consisted of Todd > > > > > > > > > > > >Clagett and Allyson Clagett diving as a buddy team 1 > > > > > > > > > > > >and David Dalton, Sr. & David Dalton, Jr. diving as > > > > > > > > > > > >buddy team 2. Team 1 is generally more interested in > > > > > > > > > > > >artifact recovery and Team 2 leans more toward > > > > > > > > > > > >sightseeing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We arrived at the site of the Eureka (118 fsw) at > > > > > > > > > > > >approximately 10:30, geared up and were in the water > > > > > > > > > > > >at 11:30. Visibility was a spectacular 70 ft and > > > > > > > > > > > >water temps on the bottom were a pleasant 61 degrees, > > > > > > > > > > > >with surface temp being much warmer. There was a > > > > > > > > > > > >strong current and it was very nice to be using > > > > > > > > > > > >scooters to deal with it. More on that later! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Team 1 went right to digging in a hole that wasn't > > > > > > > > > > > >more than 15 feet from where the wreck was tied in. > > > > > > > > > > > >They left the numerous bottles they unearthed for the > > > > > > > > > > > >second dive bringing up just one. Team 2 toured the > > > > > > > > > > > >wreck with D1 (Sr) pulling D2 (Jr) with his Gavin > > > > > > > > > > > >scooter. D2 carried a camera and shot two rolls which > > > > > > > > > > > >are in the process of being developed as I write. The > > > > > > > > > > > >clarity of the water allowed one to get a very good > > > > > > > > > > > >understanding of the layout of the wreck. Viewing the > > > > > > > > > > > >two large anchors on the port side of the bow, at the > > > > > > > > > > > >same time was incredible. Both Teams completed their > > > > > > > > > > > >planned 40 minute bottom times and required deco and > > > > > > > > > > > >got back on board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Todd advised that he had just broken into a new crate > > > > > > > > > > > >of bottles and showed one he had stuffed in his > > > > > > > > > > > >pocket, a square bottle of Dr. Prichard's Castoria > > > > > > > > > > > >with the good doctor's name and the product name cast > > > > > > > > > > > >into the bottle. Although these bottles were from the > > > > > > > > > > > >1890's when this ship sunk, D1 is old enough (54) to > > > > > > > > > > > >remember taking this patent medicine as a child. It > > > > > > > > > > > >was still sold in a square bottle and appeared that > > > > > > > > > > > >the only change was from a cork to a screw top. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Todd's discovery generated considerable excitement > > > > > > > > > > > >between both teams and both decided to concentrate on > > > > > > > > > > > >excavating that hole on the second dive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Both teams brought bags down to carry back bottles on > > > > > > > > > > > >the second dive. Todd, being the master digger with a > > > > > > > > > > > >scooter, went to work while the other 3 stuffed the > > > > > > > > > > > >bags as he handed out bottles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >About 20 minutes into the dive Allyson developed a > > > > > > > > > > > >problem with one of her regs and after the situation > > > > > > > > > > > >was handled both teams decided to end the dive. Team > > > > > > > > > > > >1 started their ascent and deco and Team 2 hooked up > > > > > > > > > > > >the two bags of bottles and started their ascent. > > > > > > > > > > > >Rather than hang on the line like a flag in the breeze > > > > > > > > > > > >we were doing "drift and run deco". Drift 50 or > > 60 > > > > > > > > > > > >feet from the anchor line and then run back to it with > > > > > > > > > > > >the scooter, then drift again and repeat, obviously > > > > > > > > > > > >only a technique one would employ in good viz. > > > > > > > > > > > >Between 40 & 50 feet the current picked up quite a bit > > > > > > > > > > > >and we (Team 2) inadvertently drifted out of sight of > > > > > > > > > > > >the anchor line. We ran some circular patterns on the > > > > > > > > > > > >scooter but to no avail. We settled in, shot a bag, > > > > > > > > > > > >completed our deco drift style, and upon completion > > > > > > > > > > > >surfaced to find the boat several hundred yards away. > > > > > > > > > > > >We dropped down to 15 feet and scootered toward the > > > > > > > > > > > >boat for about 2 minutes. We surfaced again and saw > > > > > > > > > > > >that we were making progress so we dropped down and > > > > > > > > > > > >tried it again. This time I could hear the motor on > > > > > > > > > > > >the scooter slowing and realized we were out of juice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We returned to the surface, and found we were even > > > > > > > > > > > >farther away than before. We fully inflated the lift > > > > > > > > > > > >bag, hooked up the dive-alerts an honked them and > > > > > > > > > > > >flashed the HID light in the direction of the boat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Todd later advised that he saw us as soon as we > > > > > > > > > > > >surfaced but we were not aware of this. Consequently > > > > > > > > > > > >we continued to signal and honk. Interestingly no one > > > > > > > > > > > >heard the dive alert (other than us!) and the HID > > > > > > > > > > > >light (a 10 Watt EE Pro 6) was more visible than the > > > > > > > > > > > >yellow lift bag. (Note to self: Never dive in the > > > > > > > > > > > >ocean without the HID!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As we were the last divers in the water the boat > > > > > > > > > > > >didn't have to wait TOOOOOOOOO long before coming to > > > > > > > > > > > >get us. The mate went in to pull the hook, they > > > > > > > > > > > >pulled up the hangbars and gear lines and got > > > > > > > > > > > >underway. All of this took about 30 minutes which > > > > > > > > > > > >doesn't seem like too long, but when you don't know if > > > > > > > > > > > >anyone knows where you are and you re drifting farther > > > > > > > > > > > >and farther from the boat, I can assure you it seems > > > > > > > > > > > >like much longer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Lessons learned: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1) Switch batteries on the scooter between dives. If > > > > > > > > > > > >we had fresh batteries in the scooter we could have > > > > > > > > > > > >made it back to the boat even following our drift > > > > > > > > > > > >deco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >2) Make sure you have appropriate signaling devices. > > > > > > > > > > > >Lift bag, safety sausage, HID light, dive-alert. On > > > > > > > > > > > >the last, while the dive-alert has it's place, which > > > > > > > > > > > >is probably in situations where fog blows in and you > > > > > > > > > > > >are relatively close to the boat, its not much good at > > > > > > > > > > > >longer distances as I have now learned. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Along this same line it would be comforting for the > > > > > > > > > > > >team in the water if the boat had someway of signaling > > > > > > > > > > > >back that they knew where you were and would come get > > > > > > > > > > > >you shortly (Horn, flare, guy in a lime green drysuit > > > > > > > > > > > >waving his arms on the top of the boat)! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >3) This situation pointed out the need for chase boats > > > > > > > > > > > >when diving in strong currents, or for the boat to be > > > > > > > > > > > >able to put a float on the anchor line, so they can > > > > > > > > > > > >leave to pick up/attend to the divers on a lift bag. > > > > > > > > > > > >While the Miss Lindsey has a chase boat it was not > > > > > > > > > > > >used in this case. In this case we were able to > > > > > > > > > > > >complete our deco, surface and wait to be picked up. > > > > > > > > > > > >If a diver was injured or did not have appropriate gas > > > > > > > > > > > >to complete his deco (like hanging it off the boat > > > > > > > > > > > >instead of carrying it with you) the outcome might not > > > > > > > > > > > >have been as favorable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >4) Stay calm. While we were concerned as to whether > > > > > > > > > > > >or not anyone knew where we were, we remained calm > > > > > > > > > > > >which helped to contribute to the favorable outcome of > > > > > > > > > > > >this dive. There was no reason to panic, the water > > > > > > > > > > > >was warm, we were in trilam drysuits with thinsulate > > > > > > > > > > > >undergarments, we had a 10 watt hid that would burn > > > > > > > > > > > >for 5 + hours which would be especially good for > > > > > > > > > > > >signaling in the dusk or at night and we had 4 back up > > > > > > > > > > > >lights between us. We had just eaten several Miss > > > > > > > > > > > >Lindsey "Deco Dogs" before the second dive so our > > > > > > > > > > > >nutritional requirements were taken care of (those > > > > > > > > > > > >things will stay with you forever!). We were well > > > > > > > > > > > >hydrated and I had a P-valve in my drysuit - too bad > > > > > > > > > > > >my son did not (You've never seen anyone get out of a > > > > > > > > > > > >drysuit and run for the head so fast)!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >5) If you are doing a "drift and run" deco, make > > sure > > > > > > > > > > > >you don't lose sight of the anchor line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >All in all, it was an incredible day of diving, great > > > > > > > > > > > >weather, great viz, great bottles (yes we still had > > > > > > > > > > > >both bags when we got back on the boat), and a very > > > > > > > > > > > >worthwhile learning experience. What more could you > > > > > > > > > > > >ask for? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dave Dalton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > > > > > > > > >Dave Dalton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"You just can't show up for "Game Day" and > expect > > to win. > > > > > > > > > > > > You've got to go to practice if you want to be > > ready!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eudora="autourl">http://home.earthlink.net/~toddclagett/NovaTech/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! 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Judging from your ability to express yourself in such as clean, and intelligent manner, I can tell that your a well educated, brilliant person, dripping with class. From your demeanor I can tell that you are the True Diving prima donna. I stand in awe of your abilities, Capt'n. You are the fount of knowledge, a true master. Or Perhaps (as is evident) it's just arrogance. <br /> Capt'n, I encourage you to reexamine you calling in life, perhaps theirs a neighborhood pool you could tend to, and leave the real work to the pros. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe your not an example of the Peter principle, but I doubt it.<br /> <br /> Thank you again,<br /> <br /> -=Justin<br /> <br /> ps, Capt'n -<br /> request denied.<br /> Think before you send.<br /> --- On Fri 07/26, Capt JT < captjt@mi*.co* > wrote:<br /> From: Capt JT [mailto: captjt@mi*.co*]<br /> To: amidon3@ex*.co*<br /> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:49:19 -0400<br /> Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons Learned<br /> <br /> > <html><br /> > He wants to stick his nose out there, I can deal with him, you are a<br /> > pussy and do it in private.<br><br /> > Hey asshole, I don't own the boat, I don't need them customers.......I'm<br /> > the guy that deals with the pussies like you, Todd, and Hunter.......I<br /> > keep you from killing yourself or someone else.........<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > At 12:13 PM 7/26/02 -0400, you wrote:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <blockquote type=cite cite>Capt Jackass<br><br /> > <br><br /> > What do you hope to gain by posting this? <br><br /> > If your a business man, why would you walk around pissing on potential<br /> > customers? Maybe you their not ready to go out, today but they will one<br /> > day. <br><br /> > <br><br /> > I personally look forward to reading postings by George Irvine. The man<br /> > is amazing, knows his shit hands down. Who are you? You drive a boat<br /> > around and beat your chest, to those you listen or might give a shit.<br /> > Swallow you pride and listen to those who do know their shit, sometimes<br /> > it OK not to know something. Learn from the man, It may save a <br /> > life.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > -=Justin <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > --- On Thu 07/25, Capt JT < captjt@mi*.co* > wrote:<br><br /> > From: Capt JT [mailto: captjt@mi*.co*]<br><br /> > To: VBTech@ci*.co*<br><br /> > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com<br><br /> > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:26:48 -0400<br><br /> > Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons Learned<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > Look neophyte, I have been getting emails from you for months<br /> > like<br><br /> > > this:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > At 09:44 AM 6/26/02 -0400, you wrote:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <font face="arial" size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>Jt,</font><br><br /> > <br><br /> > > My name is Brian Hunter, I don't know if you remember talking to<br /> > me<br><br /> > > awhile ago but I now live in Va.(Dahlgren Navy base). I would like<br /> > to<br><br /> > > know if we could get together and go diving. My ph# is<br /> > 540-xxxxxxxxxx I<br><br /> > > would appreciate a call to discuss a chance to go diving with your<br /> > group.<br><br /> > > Just so you know I am DIR, and always looking to be better.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > Thank you and looking forward to hearing from you.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > Brian Hunter</blockquote><br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > , begging me to take you out diving with us and I tell you to just<br /> > get on<br><br /> > > the boat on a weenie dive first. I base my decision on this:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > At 10:51 PM 1/23/02 -0600, Brian Hunter wrote:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <font face="arial" size=2>> color="#0000FF"> <br><br /> > > I myself am new to tech diving <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > </font>Look, the neophytes like you who keep jumping on the band<br /> > wagon of<br><br /> > > DIR don't have the experience for a real dive and unless you<br /> > are<br><br /> > > protected and watched out for you will do shit like Todd. The only<br /> > thing<br><br /> > > he lacked to be in Star Wars in his predive check, was one of<br /> > them<br><br /> > > answering "ROGER ROGER". <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > I don't need anymore babies to sit.........get some experience<br><br /> > > first.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > At 04:40 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Brian Hunter wrote:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <font face="arial" size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>Who gives a fuck<br /> > how<br><br /> > > deep you dive! It's not about depth, it's about FUN and SAFETY!<br /> > SAFETY!<br><br /> > > Get it SAFETY one more time so your dumbass will get it SAFETY.<br /> > After all<br><br /> > > I'm hearing I don't know if I really want to dive with you. I think<br /> > I<br><br /> > > will listen to George, you're a fuck up.</font><br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > > <font face="arial" size=2>Brian Hunter</font><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <blockquote>> DIR Always<br /> > <dl><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>----- Original Message ----- <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>From: <a href="mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT</a> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>To: <a href="mailto:VBTech@ci*.co*">VBTech list</a> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Cc: <a href="mailto:allysonclagett@ea*.ne*">'Allyson'</a> ;<br /> > <dd>> <a href="mailto:trey@my*.ne*">trey@myacc.net</a> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 10:02 PM<br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons<br /> > <dd>> Learned<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>I see you are trying to narrow down the playing field, dropped all<br /> > <dd>> list but VBtech and of course George, your ego is to thin, your<br /> > leading a<br /> > <dd>> group of quarry divers, you have only 7 ocean dives this year 2<br /> > were on<br /> > <dd>> Sunday and 3 the weekend before, 2 in April....... nothing past<br /> > 130ft ,<br /> > <dd>> your a weenie diver......<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>At 09:51 PM 7/24/02 -0400, Capt JT<br /> > <dd>> wrote:<blockquote type=cite cite><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Your so fucked up, I've been waiting for this, you have the wrong<br /> > <dd>> Bob. I saw that right away in your emails and was laughing my<br /> > ass off,<br /> > <dd>> you don't know who's who or what to do. <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>At 08:16 PM 7/24/02 -0400, Todd Clagett<br /> > <dd>> wrote:<font size=2 color="#0000FF"><br /> > <dd>> cite><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>This is pretty funny. Your ego got damaged because I told you<br /> > <dd>> Stella and Bob were not ready to do the Barque (250'). You <br /> > then<br /> > <dd>> started to pull out everything that we had ever done wrong. I<br /> > <dd>> admit, I have done plenty wrong in the water. It was mostly when<br /> > I<br /> > <dd>> was listening to the VB tech crowd. The fact is you are mad<br /> > becasue<br /> > <dd>> people see the stupid things you do as just that, STUPID.<br /> > </font><br /> > <dd>> <font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF"><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>I guess you are the one who let Bob go to the bottom on the Ethel <br /> > C.<br /> > <dd>> with a stage bottle of O2 turned completely on because he didn't<br /> > have the<br /> > <dd>> correct regulator? Or was that somebody else. I thought you<br /> > <dd>> would take my advice when I said these folks weren't ready, but<br /> > you took<br /> > <dd>> it personal for some reason. I make mistakes and so do all<br /> > others I<br /> > <dd>> know. You better be ready to react to the mistakes when they<br /> > <dd>> happen. </font><br /> > <dd>> <font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF"><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>You always say your good judgement saved Becky when she ox-toxed on<br /> > <dd>> the Doria (because you paired her with Rick). How many dives <br /> > in<br /> > <dd>> doubles did she have? I recall seeing her on the boat about 3<br /> > weeks<br /> > <dd>> before in doubles for the first time. I would say your good<br /> > <dd>> judgement almos killed a very nice girl! You don't get it now<br /> > and<br /> > <dd>> you never will. </font><br /> > <dd>> <font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF"><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Allyson did not have her isolator closed. It wouldn't matter if<br /> > <dd>> she did though, we would have handled that too! I doubt you<br /> > would<br /> > <dd>> have been close enough to help had you been her buddy. It <br /> > would<br /> > <dd>> have been another "heart attack". </font><br /> > <dd>> <font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF"><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>The only thing I said on the boat was that we were in a gas sharing<br /> > <dd>> situation and then the daltons went back for some of my gear.<br /> > Jeff<br /> > <dd>> said "why the fuck were you gas sharing for a reg<br /> > <dd>> failure?" I replied......She wants fucking gas, she gets<br /> > <dd>> gas. End of story. Why does this have to be a<br /> > <dd>> conspiracy? You are paranoid man, chill out. I have nothing<br /> > <dd>> to gain by lying, mainly because it doesn't matter. Diving<br /> > doesn't<br /> > <dd>> define me, validate me, or justify me like it does you. I think<br /> > you<br /> > <dd>> better learn how to dive a little better since it validates your<br /> > life so<br /> > <dd>> much. </font><br /> > <dd>> <font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF"><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Tell me about boat captains and when they can dive and sleep. I<br /> > <dd>> am really interested to hear this one. </font><br /> > <dd>> <font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF"><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Todd</font> <font face="tahoma" size=2><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>-----Original Message----- <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>From: VBTech list<br /> > <dd>> [ ><br /> > eudora="autourl"><a href="??&PHPSESSID=b96e4f2ae8c5a54d68e6181f61cc9658&PHPSESSID=b96e4f2ae8c5a54d68 e6181f61cc9658"<br /> > eudora="autourl">mailto:VBTech@ci*.co*]On<br /> > <dd>> Behalf Of Capt JT <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:37 PM <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>To: VBTech list <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Cc: Allyson; trey@my*.ne*; andrewg@fi*.co*;<br /> > <dd>> techdiver@aquanaut.com <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons <br /> > <dd>> Learned<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> </a></font><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Funny thing about egos, you push them enough and they will come<br /> > <dd>> out.........the fact is Todd came up and told what happen(most<br /> > divers do<br /> > <dd>> at first and then change the story to save their egos), you and<br /> > I assume<br /> > <dd>> Todd were doing this new DIR drill you think you've learned and<br /> > some how<br /> > <dd>> you left the boat with your isolator and your back up reg closed<br /> > only<br /> > <dd>> breathing off your primary. At about 20mins (which is right for<br /> > your size<br /> > <dd><a href="??&PHPSESSID=b96e4f2ae8c5a54d68e6181f61cc9658&PHPSESSID=b96e4f2ae8c5a54d68 e6181f61cc9658" eudora="autourl">> tanks and SAC) you ran out of gas,<br /> > switched to your back up and got<br /> > <dd>> shit........ In the panic once you got on Todd's gas started<br /> > back to the<br /> > <dd>> anchor, this is where I'm waiting for someone to put the real<br /> > story<br /> > <dd>> together from the posted story it ain't hard to do, all they<br /> > have to do<br /> > <dd>> is read and put the pieces together.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>The fact is I saw the email that Todd challenged Dave to go public<br /> > on<br /> > <dd>> these list about who you did not want to go on some<br /> > trips......... I<br /> > <dd>> wanted it to happen, Dave did not as not to put names on the<br /> > <dd>> list.........I could give a fuck........ So when Todd started<br /> > his little<br /> > <dd>> private cc posting I smashed all your dicks (even though you<br /> > don't have<br /> > <dd>> one) with the truth about your skills and past history, we have<br /> > been<br /> > <dd>> protecting you guys all the time and I knew it would be just a<br /> > matter of<br /> > <dd>> time before you fucked up and Dave nor I was there to correct<br /> > it. Funny,<br /> > <dd>> the divers you were worried about did fine.........you guys have<br /> > the<br /> > <dd>> problem.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Here is another noticeable thing..........you now include the <br /> > VBtech<br /> > <dd>> list, Dalton didn't because he knew that some on the boat are<br /> > only on<br /> > <dd>> that list. <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>At 06:30 </a>PM 7/24/02 -0400, Allyson wrote:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>><br /> > <blockquote type=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080"><br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>I am absolutely in awe over how obtuse you are. Who the hell do you<br /> > <dd>> think you are talking to? This is me, JT. Dalton didn't write<br /> > about some<br /> > <dd>> of the details you mention because they didn't happen to him,<br /> > not because<br /> > <dd>> he is trying to protect our "frail egos" or<br /> > "cover<br /> > <dd>> [anything] up," please! I do not give a flying f*@% about<br /> > anyone's<br /> > <dd>> ego. Todd and I will be glad to talk about those details that<br /> > you say<br /> > <dd>> were suspiciously left out, and we plan on it. We'll talk <br /> > about<br /> > <dd>> *everything.*</font> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Do you think I actually jumped off the boat into 118fsw with no<br /> > <dd>> valves on? If you think that was ever a possibility from me you<br /> > should<br /> > <dd>> have never invited me on the trips that you have lead. You must<br /> > not think<br /> > <dd>> much of me at all to even think that a possibility and I must be<br /> > some<br /> > <dd>> sort of super diver with a SAC rate of almost zero to be able to<br /> > stay on<br /> > <dd>> the bottom for 17 minutes with two off valves and then to<br /> > continue on my<br /> > <dd>> own accord through my slow ascent/decompression; that would make<br /> > me some<br /> > <dd>> sort of physiological oddity. Why didn't you just ask me what<br /> > happened<br /> > <dd>> before you came to the table with your plate full of usual<br /> > tired<br /> > <dd>> misinformed rhetoric? I see that you are chomping at the bit to<br /> > confront<br /> > <dd>> us and that is amusing. I suggest you get off your "high<br /> > horse"<br /> > <dd>> before you get knocked off. Your attitude is sickening. Is this<br /> > what you<br /> > <dd>> do to validate yourself? <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Before each dive we have been checking every facet of our gear and<br /> > <dd>> ensuring that it is operational because we subscribe to the<br /> > belief that<br /> > <dd>> what each of us is carrying belongs to the entire team. After<br /> > our team<br /> > <dd>> checks, everything on my person was operational and behaving as<br /> > it<br /> > <dd>> should, including my SPG, the needle never bounced when I took<br /> > not 3 but<br /> > <dd>> 6 breaths from my back up reg on the surface, the extra 3<br /> > breaths were<br /> > <dd>> done to satisfy my buddy because he didn't witness me do it the<br /> > first<br /> > <dd>> time. You have no idea what happened to me, not the<br /> > foggiest...do you<br /> > <dd>> know how I know this? Because we didn't tell anyone on the boat<br /> > what<br /> > <dd>> happened to me except that we shared air--we were intentionally<br /> > unclear<br /> > <dd>> because no one on the boat cared for one another as evidenced by<br /> > the<br /> > <dd>> completely unprofessional cluster f*@% that later occurred and<br /> > the<br /> > <dd>> misinformation regarding me that you received from your<br /> > "drooling<br /> > <dd>> informants." <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>I have put my heart and soul into this sport because I respect the<br /> > <dd>> fact that the ocean is not my natural environment and that<br /> > mother nature<br /> > <dd>> can be a real bitch. There was no panic on our parts, a detail<br /> > that you<br /> > <dd>> must have just made up. Panic will get one killed. Remedying<br /> > *my*<br /> > <dd>> situation went smoothly because we took the philosophy and the<br /> > procedures<br /> > <dd>> that AG and MHK taught and used them and that includes the<br /> > countless<br /> > <dd>> hours me and my buddies have spent in the quarry practicing and<br /> > preparing<br /> > <dd>> for "real dives" and any situations that arise on<br /> > those dives.<br /> > <dd>> My brief moment of not being able to access my gas did not even<br /> > upset me<br /> > <dd>> because I knew my buddy, Todd, would be there for me once I<br /> > alerted him,<br /> > <dd>> and he was in my face instantly watching me make a reg switch<br /> > and when he<br /> > <dd>> saw I wasn't satisfied with that solution he had gas in my mouth<br /> > in<br /> > <dd>> seconds and it was executed calmly. There is something to be<br /> > said about<br /> > <dd>> having a procedure in place to handle would be emergencies. And<br /> > I was<br /> > <dd>> also aware of the fact that it was an impossibility for me to<br /> > actually be<br /> > <dd>> out of gas. I can't stress how crucial superb buddy skills are<br /> > to the<br /> > <dd>> diving system. One interesting aspect of the DIR system is that<br /> > whether<br /> > <dd>> my equipment failed me or I failed myself there was still<br /> > another safe<br /> > <dd>> way out.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>And, JT, I write this knowing full well that you will put this in<br /> > <dd>> your Allyson Clagett email file so that you can throw it back in<br /> > my face<br /> > <dd>> when it's convenient for you to do so and most probably attempt<br /> > to poke a<br /> > <dd>> hole through every thing I or my buddies say. What kind of<br /> > person does<br /> > <dd>> that? Better yet, what kind of *friend* does that? If you<br /> > actually have<br /> > <dd>> some constructive criticism I will welcome it with open arms but<br /> > at this<br /> > <dd>> point I am not hopeful that is what your intentions are. I will<br /> > save you<br /> > <dd>> the trouble of publicly publishing this by doing so myself. If<br /> > you ever<br /> > <dd>> want to have a real conversation with me, like a mature adult<br /> > would do,<br /> > <dd>> and not the nonsensical Internet bully email crap that has<br /> > become your<br /> > <dd>> style you have my phone number. I'll happily speak with you--but<br /> > I'll<br /> > <dd>> never dive with you again your general attitude sucks and GI is<br /> > right,<br /> > <dd>> yet again, you are obstinate... but I believe his exact words<br /> > were hard<br /> > <dd>> headed and incapable of learning.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Happy Internet diving, JT, I know you enjoy it.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <font face="arial" size=2><br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>-----Original Message-----</font> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>From: Capt JT<br /> > <dd>> [ ><br /> > eudora="autourl"><a<br /> > href="mailto:captjt@mi*.co*%5D%3E%20%3E%20%3E%20Sent:%20Tuesday,%20July%2023,%20 2002%204:22%20PM%3E%20%3E%20%3E%20To:%20dmdalton%3E%20%3E%20%3E%20Cc:%20allysonl c@ea*.ne*;%20toddclagett@earthlink.net%3E%20%3E%20%3E%20Subject:%20Re:%20Nova%20 Tech%20Di"<br /> > eudora="autourl">mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]</a><br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 4:22 PM<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>To: dmdalton<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Cc: allysonlc@ea*.ne*; toddclagett@ea*.ne*<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Subject: Re: Nova Tech Dive Report 7/21/02 & Lessons <br /> > <dd>> Learned<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <font face="arial" size=2><br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>Dave, I have read your report and I have been informed by others on<br /> > <dd>><br /> > the</font><a<br /> > href="mailto:captjt@mi*.co*%5D%3E%20%3E%20%3E%20Sent:%20Tuesday,%20July%2023,%20 2002%204:22%20PM%3E%20%3E%20%3E%20To:%20dmdalton%3E%20%3E%20%3E%20Cc:%20allysonl c@ea*.ne*;%20toddclagett@earthlink.net%3E%20%3E%20%3E%20Subject:%20Re:%20Nova%20 Tech%20Di"<br /> > eudora="autourl"> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>boat what really went down. I am answering this private and will at<br /> > <dd>> this<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>point keep it that way until you are not able to cover the flack<br /> > <dd>> I<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>suspect will come from the report on techdiver. Several important<br /> > <dd>> details<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>you left out to cover ones egos, shut off valves(not 1 but 2) ,<br /> > <dd>> panic,<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>drifting away when no one else had a problem with the current,<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>ect.......... and are suggesting that the BOAT should have done<br /> > <dd>> something<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>different, when all problems were caused by the divers themselves.<br /> > <dd>> Cover<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>your own egos best you can if any questions start and cover the <br /> > boat<br /> > <dd>> or I<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>will........I know what really happened, this is one you should not<br /> > <dd>> have<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>posted, you guys are too </a>"thin skinned" to handle a<br /> > <dd>> seasoned diver drilling<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>this report.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <font color="#000080"><br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> </font><font face="arial" size=2><br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>At 10:37 AM 7/23/02 -0700, you wrote:</font> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Trip report:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Sunday, July 21, 2002 found 4 Nova Tech divers diving<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>out of Virginia Beach, VA on the Miss Lindsey with<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>others with whom they regularly dive of the VB Tech<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>group. Nova Tech group divers consisted of Todd<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Clagett and Allyson Clagett diving as a buddy team 1<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>and David Dalton, Sr. & David Dalton, Jr. diving as<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>buddy team 2. Team 1 is generally more interested in<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>artifact recovery and Team 2 leans more toward<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>sightseeing.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>We arrived at the site of the Eureka (118 fsw) at<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>approximately 10:30, geared up and were in the water<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>at 11:30. Visibility was a spectacular 70 ft and<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>water temps on the bottom were a pleasant 61 degrees,<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>with surface temp being much warmer. There was a<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>strong current and it was very nice to be using<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>scooters to deal with it. More on that later!<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Team 1 went right to digging in a hole that wasn't<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>more than 15 feet from where the wreck was tied in.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>They left the numerous bottles they unearthed for the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>second dive bringing up just one. Team 2 toured the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>wreck with D1 (Sr) pulling D2 (Jr) with his Gavin<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>scooter. D2 carried a camera and shot two rolls which<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>are in the process of being developed as I write. The<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>clarity of the water allowed one to get a very good<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>understanding of the layout of the wreck. Viewing the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>two large anchors on the port side of the bow, at the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>same time was incredible. Both Teams completed their<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>planned 40 minute bottom times and required deco and<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>got back on board.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Todd advised that he had just broken into a new crate<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>of bottles and showed one he had stuffed in his<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>pocket, a square bottle of Dr. Prichard's Castoria<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>with the good doctor's name and the product name cast<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>into the bottle. Although these bottles were from the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>1890's when this ship sunk, D1 is old enough (54) to<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>remember taking this patent medicine as a child. It<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>was still sold in a square bottle and appeared that<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>the only change was from a cork to a screw top.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Todd's discovery generated considerable excitement<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>between both teams and both decided to concentrate on<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>excavating that hole on the second dive.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Both teams brought bags down to carry back bottles on<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>the second dive. Todd, being the master digger with a<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>scooter, went to work while the other 3 stuffed the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>bags as he handed out bottles.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>About 20 minutes into the dive Allyson developed a<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>problem with one of her regs and after the situation<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>was handled both teams decided to end the dive. Team<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>1 started their ascent and deco and Team 2 hooked up<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>the two bags of bottles and started their ascent.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Rather than hang on the line like a flag in the breeze<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>we were doing "drift and run deco". Drift 50 or <br /> > <dd>> 60<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>feet from the anchor line and then run back to it with<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>the scooter, then drift again and repeat, obviously<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>only a technique one would employ in good viz.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Between 40 & 50 feet the current picked up quite a bit<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>and we (Team 2) inadvertently drifted out of sight of<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>the anchor line. We ran some circular patterns on the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>scooter but to no avail. We settled in, shot a bag,<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>completed our deco drift style, and upon completion<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>surfaced to find the boat several hundred yards away.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>We dropped down to 15 feet and scootered toward the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>boat for about 2 minutes. We surfaced again and saw<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>that we were making progress so we dropped down and<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>tried it again. This time I could hear the motor on<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>the scooter slowing and realized we were out of juice.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>We returned to the surface, and found we were even<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>farther away than before. We fully inflated the lift<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>bag, hooked up the dive-alerts an honked them and<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>flashed the HID light in the direction of the boat.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Todd later advised that he saw us as soon as we<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>surfaced but we were not aware of this. Consequently<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>we continued to signal and honk. Interestingly no one<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>heard the dive alert (other than us!) and the HID<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>light (a 10 Watt EE Pro 6) was more visible than the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>yellow lift bag. (Note to self: Never dive in the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>ocean without the HID!)<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>As we were the last divers in the water the boat<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>didn't have to wait TOOOOOOOOO long before coming to<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>get us. The mate went in to pull the hook, they<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>pulled up the hangbars and gear lines and got<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>underway. All of this took about 30 minutes which<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>doesn't seem like too long, but when you don't know if<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>anyone knows where you are and you re drifting farther<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>and farther from the boat, I can assure you it seems<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>like much longer!<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Lessons learned:<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>1) Switch batteries on the scooter between dives. If<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>we had fresh batteries in the scooter we could have<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>made it back to the boat even following our drift<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>deco.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>2) Make sure you have appropriate signaling devices.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Lift bag, safety sausage, HID light, dive-alert. On<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>the last, while the dive-alert has it's place, which<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>is probably in situations where fog blows in and you<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>are relatively close to the boat, its not much good at<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>longer distances as I have now learned.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Along this same line it would be comforting for the<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>team in the water if the boat had someway of signaling<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>back that they knew where you were and would come get<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>you shortly (Horn, flare, guy in a lime green drysuit<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>waving his arms on the top of the boat)!<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>3) This situation pointed out the need for chase boats<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>when diving in strong currents, or for the boat to be<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>able to put a float on the anchor line, so they can<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>leave to pick up/attend to the divers on a lift bag.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>While the Miss Lindsey has a chase boat it was not<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>used in this case. In this case we were able to<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>complete our deco, surface and wait to be picked up.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>If a diver was injured or did not have appropriate gas<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>to complete his deco (like hanging it off the boat<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>instead of carrying it with you) the outcome might not<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>have been as favorable.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>4) Stay calm. While we were concerned as to whether<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>or not anyone knew where we were, we remained calm<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>which helped to contribute to the favorable outcome of<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>this dive. There was no reason to panic, the water<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>was warm, we were in trilam drysuits with thinsulate<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>undergarments, we had a 10 watt hid that would burn<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>for 5 + hours which would be especially good for<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>signaling in the dusk or at night and we had 4 back up<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>lights between us. We had just eaten several Miss<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>Lindsey "Deco Dogs" before the second dive so our<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>nutritional requirements were taken care of (those<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>things will stay with you forever!). We were well<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>hydrated and I had a P-valve in my drysuit - too bad<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>my son did not (You've never seen anyone get out of a<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>drysuit and run for the head so fast)!!!!<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>5) If you are doing a "drift and run" deco, make<br /> > <dd>> sure<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>you don't lose sight of the anchor line.<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>><br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>All in all, it was an incredible day of diving, great<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>weather, great viz, great bottles (yes we still had<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>both bags when we got back on the boat), and a very<br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br><br /> > <br><br /> > <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>> <br /> > <dd>>worthwhile learning experience. 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