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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: <jimcurtis@di*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: GUE
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:55:14 -0400
Jim, you are quite the hypocrite. It is not ok for your boy on the Seeker to
lie about GUE - read what he wrote. That is hardly what I do with your
little buddies at the agencies - I merely point out the truth. I challenged
you to produce one thing I have ever said that is not true, and you can not
do it.

GUE has nothing to do with me nor me with it and Panos just made that
clear.  You really are an idiot - first you say that my style is
preventing GUE from  going anywhere, and then you accuse Panos of going
along with me since it is creating a "love fest" for GUE.  What you really
want is for me to shut up.

Nothing anyone can do will ever stop me from hammering idiots where they
need it. If you do not like it, either ignore it, refute it with some
facts, or correct it - you obviously can not refute it, have no interest in
fixing it, and only want me to go away - not going to happen.

Jarrod does not like my style,he has come on here and said so, Panos does
not like it and just told you so . GUE does not itself allow its people to
treat idiots like you with the disrespect they deserve.

Still waiting for one example of me being wrong about any of this.



-----Original Message-----
From: jimcurtis@di*.co*
[mailto:jimcurtis@di*.co*]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:07 AM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re:GUE


Message text written by INTERNET:PAlexakos@ao*.co*

>I applaud your familiarity with Walt Disney. Mine is
poor, so your colorful 
rhetoric is lost on me.<

I'm sorry you had such a deprived childhood, but it
explains a lot.  Maybe
you should take a vacation and check it out.  It might
improve your dispostion.

>Anyhow, the analogy you seek to establish between 
Mr. Crowley and your thinly veiled reference to Mr.
Irvine is a poor one, not 
only because Mr. Irvine is not an officer of this
organization, but because 
in the case of Mr. Crowley, there is ample evidence
that he, in fact, 
knowingly misrepresented the facts.  In the case of Mr.
Irvine, perhaps the 
organizations he criticized did not feel that they
recourse against him for 
the claims that he made.

For the record, GUE's "methods" do not include slander,
insults, or lies; our 
 "whining" is merely a request for accurate
representation. In our opinion, 
the intentional distortion of the truth, designed to
harm another, falls 
outside the domain of free speech, forcing us to take
measures to curtail 
them.<

Get over it the boat sank!  You started this entire
thread by threatening to sue
the Seeker when you got some of your own medicine and
having the "usual suspects" chime in.  A response I
might add which is all to familiar when these things
appear on the list. 

If you're not happy with the results of "guilt by
association" with Mr. Irvine (Are you saying he IS Mr.
DIR?), too bad.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I have
seen one post on this list, by an OFFICER of your
organization, disassociating yourselves with his
rhetoric, communicative style or opinions. Nor have I
seen an officer of any other certifying agency come on
here and bash GUE in a similar manner. However, it
seems you have enjoyed and exploited the GUE "love
fest" it has generated.

Perhaps your desire for litigation is focused in the
wrong direction.  Then maybe you 
wouldn't be spending all your time defending yourself.

Don't bother responding to this, I already see I'm
wasting my time.

I believe the line "Me thinks you doth protest too
much" applies.

Jim
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