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Jim, the fact is that my version of how things should be done is so obviously correct that it has become the most widespread change in diving ever to take place. My methods of dealing with morons have never and will never change - those are zero tolerance for bs and point blank reality. If people want to keep doing stupid things and tolerating stupid operations, like the Seeker, then that is not my problem. You can deal with it your way. Maybe if you are such a big fan of my methods (DIR) , then you should go around and kiss some asses to see if you can make the strokes do things differently. Let me give you a hint - you can not teach pigs to sing. It does not work and it only annoys the pigs, no matter how nice you are about it. I personally do not care if anyone does anything my way, but I will certainly point out what I think is right and wrong, no matter whose ox gets gored by that. You guys just hate the fact that you can not shut me up, and you just hate the fact that GUE offers an alternative that none of you can offer without hiding it from your agency or violating "standards"( other than NAUI). You started this crap in defense of a person who lied about GUE . You obviously think that is an appropriate thing for the Seeker moron to do , and I guess that is because he has no solid ground to stand on. If he wants to say that he will not take GUE certs because he does not like me and that I have been a critic of his nonsense for years , and that I am the director of the WKPP from whence DIR originates, and that JJ is my friend, or that probably Brett Gilliam told him to say this, than that might at least be more accurate according to what you are saying. But then that says "when you do not have ground to stand on against what G is saying, lie about it". The fact is that the strokes want us to hold hands with them on their 'standards" and to keep our mouth shut about their screwups - not going to happen. Everything will continue as it is, and you can keep trying to tell me that DIR and GUE will not be successful. Too late, pal, they are the most successful thing going. Maybe I can get Chris Elmore to do a translation of this for you sensitive types. Maybe you can tell me why I get invited all over the world to do DIR sessions? Maybe because some people want to learn, and some people want an alternative to you "real divers". You don't know what DIR is, and you don't have the resume to tell me what a "real dive" is. -----Original Message----- From: jimcurtis@di*.co* [mailto:jimcurtis@di*.co*] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:26 AM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re:GUE Message text written by INTERNET:girvine@be*.ne* >The fact is, you drooling idiot, GUE was formed due to the disgust anyone with a working brain has with what the alternatives were and are, and the fact is that the fear and panic you idiots are showing in response to its existence is a direct measure of its overwhelming success at providing an alternative to the mindless stupidity that prevails elsewhere.< Hey Sh*t for brains. Take some lithium and read a post before you start lathering all over the keyboard. I have no problem with the whole DIR concept and sound, realistic training-I support it every time I dive. My POINT is this whole attitude and posts like this one (I love it when you prove my point), sabotage the entire program. You've probably lost more people who REALLY DIVE, than you've convinced. I sincerely doubt, if your as good a businessman as you say you are, you employ this particular "Communication Technique" with your clients. If you did you'd starve. You figure it out smart guy. >And by the way, I have nothing to do with GUE, I run the WKPP, and the reason you idiots are so constantly worried about me is that you can not stop me from telling the truth, and anyone who finds out the truth finds out that I am right. If I were not right, we would not be having this conversation , you would not be so worried, and there would be no need for GUE.< That's good because with your assistance GUE will need to stay non-profit and apply to the Combined Federal Campaign for assistance. Actually we're having this conversation because the messenger is constantly shooting the audience and can't understand why nobody listens. As far as lawyers ANY lawyers are concerned, this everybody is a victim garbage is BS. I have yet to hear of anyone forced at gunpoint to become a "Tech Diver". I have repeatedly seen people that shouldn't snorkel in the shower, shop instructors, then lie, cheat and steal to convince some instroker, they're qualified. Just so they can impress some dweeb at a cocktail party with a TRIMIX card. If you drive your truck into a brick wall at 90 mph, that's not GM's fault-IT'S YOURS. You can try and sue the competition out of existence, but since they're still here I'd say it's not working. Maybe you should brush up on free market force theory. Hey if you still want to be beating your head against the wall in ten years, be my guest. BTW Don't bother to respond to this unless you can come up with a new argument, because I already know the drill. However, by all means feel free to argue with yourself ad nauseum. I never found talking to the wall especially useful. >Again, too funny.< Yeah I enjoy tuning into your crowd's antics for comic relief. Jim -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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