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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: <jimcurtis@di*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: GUE
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:55:24 -0400
By the way, Jim, why are you and yours so concerned about what I think?

-----Original Message-----
From: jimcurtis@di*.co*
[mailto:jimcurtis@di*.co*]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:07 AM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re:GUE


Message text written by INTERNET:PAlexakos@ao*.co*

>I applaud your familiarity with Walt Disney. Mine is
poor, so your colorful 
rhetoric is lost on me.<

I'm sorry you had such a deprived childhood, but it
explains a lot.  Maybe
you should take a vacation and check it out.  It might
improve your dispostion.

>Anyhow, the analogy you seek to establish between 
Mr. Crowley and your thinly veiled reference to Mr.
Irvine is a poor one, not 
only because Mr. Irvine is not an officer of this
organization, but because 
in the case of Mr. Crowley, there is ample evidence
that he, in fact, 
knowingly misrepresented the facts.  In the case of Mr.
Irvine, perhaps the 
organizations he criticized did not feel that they
recourse against him for 
the claims that he made.

For the record, GUE's "methods" do not include slander,
insults, or lies; our 
 "whining" is merely a request for accurate
representation. In our opinion, 
the intentional distortion of the truth, designed to
harm another, falls 
outside the domain of free speech, forcing us to take
measures to curtail 
them.<

Get over it the boat sank!  You started this entire
thread by threatening to sue
the Seeker when you got some of your own medicine and
having the "usual suspects" chime in.  A response I
might add which is all to familiar when these things
appear on the list. 

If you're not happy with the results of "guilt by
association" with Mr. Irvine (Are you saying he IS Mr.
DIR?), too bad.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I have
seen one post on this list, by an OFFICER of your
organization, disassociating yourselves with his
rhetoric, communicative style or opinions. Nor have I
seen an officer of any other certifying agency come on
here and bash GUE in a similar manner. However, it
seems you have enjoyed and exploited the GUE "love
fest" it has generated.

Perhaps your desire for litigation is focused in the
wrong direction.  Then maybe you 
wouldn't be spending all your time defending yourself.

Don't bother responding to this, I already see I'm
wasting my time.

I believe the line "Me thinks you doth protest too
much" applies.

Jim
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