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From: "James Funderburk" <divewithjames@ho*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Harnes rigging/training
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:41:51 -0400
Hey Brian, not yelling at you, but I am just wondering...


Where are all of you being trained??? Although I always enjoy helping out 
the next guy with quirks and subtleties, it seems that way too many of you 
have questions that should be addressed in an organized class.  Any 
technical training that does not cover all of these questions is not worth 
even showing up for.  When I teach, it seems that we never really have 
enough time to fully explore all of the possibilities.  however, I do have a 
huge equipment portion, as I am and have always been hogarthian/DIR/etc.  
Then again, I refuse to teach the ladder system.  I teach one course - that 
is how to ive appropriately for the level of the student.

It seems too often that many on these lists ask the same questions, most of 
them being equipment related, many others in the decompression theory realm. 
  Perhaps there is a slew of instructors out there who can breathe really 
well, swim decent, but know very little about te industry, equipment, and 
theory to slam it all together.

1.  Buy JJ's book - it is the finest diving text out there.  Strictly adhere 
to the philosophies of a qualified instructor presented therein.  Ask 
questions.

2.  Perform a good, honest self evaluation.  Get real.  When I hear that 9 
out of 10 technical divers "fail" a Doing it Right (within Recreational 
Limits I may add) class - time to get honest with your self.

3.  Seek proper training and do not be afraid to climb the ladder.  Often 
times, I prescribe to many students that they need to go diving 
recreationally and build the watermanship skills so lacking these days.  
They get pissed and go and find another instructor tha will accept them.  I 
never thought that they were recieving poor instruction to begin with - they 
just didn't like the steps (tey needed to have some introspection)

4.  Go diving.  I am diving atleast bi-weekly (many times weekly), but I 
have the benefit of many deep coastal caves in the Tampa area.  Yu want to 
climb Everest, then one needs to work out constantly and start with the 
smaller sand hills.  Seems that many of the technical community divers 
forget that a plunge to perhaps 200 feet is not a walk in the park.  If you 
cannot logistalliy dedicate time to dive, your skills will never be sharp 
enough to tackle more elaborate dives.  Just natural law.  Hell, I feel 
goofy after a two week lay-off, couldn't imagine a month or two.

5.  Take quality classes - NAUI, GUE, from whomever you find that meets the 
criteria eported in JJ's Fundamentals book.


6.  All of the above

Enough ranting - I just have been reading the list for a year, and seen the 
same suff over and over and over again.

James Funderburk
Tampa, Florida
NAUI Trimix Instructor

>From: "Brian Garner" <brian@le*.co*.uk*>
>To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Subject: Harnes rigging
>Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:49:08 +0100
>
>Hello everyone.
>
>I usually only follow the list and have never posted before.
>I would like some info on rigging a harness. How much slack should there be 
>in the shoulder straps part? oes anyone have a strarting measurement for 
>this length?
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>B Garner.


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