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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:13:09 -0700
From: David Chamberlin <dwc@na*.co*>
To: James Funderburk <divewithjames@ho*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, brian@le*.co*.uk*
Subject: Re: Harnes rigging/training
Absolutely agree with you about training.

That being said, it would be nice to at least have a rough idea of how 
to fit a plate in case you want to try it out before you take a class, 
or if you just plain want to ditch your Zeagle and switch to a backplate.

I wrote up something on the quest list a little while ago about sizing a 
harness, so I took that and threw it on the BAUE website.

So Brian, if you want to check out the following link, it may at least 
get you started:

http://www.baue.org/faq/backplate_sizing.html

There's also some good pictures on the wkpp site (wkpp.org) showing how 
the backplate looks properly rigged and on.

Regards,
Dave

James Funderburk wrote:
> Hey Brian, not yelling at you, but I am just wondering...
> 
> 
> Where are all of you being trained??? Although I always enjoy helping 
> out the next guy with quirks and subtleties, it seems that way too many 
> of you have questions that should be addressed in an organized class.  
> Any technical training that does not cover all of these questions is not 
> worth even showing up for.  When I teach, it seems that we never really 
> have enough time to fully explore all of the possibilities.  however, I 
> do have a huge equipment portion, as I am and have always been 
> hogarthian/DIR/etc.  Then again, I refuse to teach the ladder system.  I 
> teach one course - that is how to ive appropriately for the level of the 
> student.
> 
> It seems too often that many on these lists ask the same questions, most 
> of them being equipment related, many others in the decompression theory 
> realm.  Perhaps there is a slew of instructors out there who can breathe 
> really well, swim decent, but know very little about te industry, 
> equipment, and theory to slam it all together.
> 
> 1.  Buy JJ's book - it is the finest diving text out there.  Strictly 
> adhere to the philosophies of a qualified instructor presented therein.  
> Ask questions.
> 
> 2.  Perform a good, honest self evaluation.  Get real.  When I hear that 
> 9 out of 10 technical divers "fail" a Doing it Right (within 
> Recreational Limits I may add) class - time to get honest with your self.
> 
> 3.  Seek proper training and do not be afraid to climb the ladder.  
> Often times, I prescribe to many students that they need to go diving 
> recreationally and build the watermanship skills so lacking these days.  
> They get pissed and go and find another instructor tha will accept 
> them.  I never thought that they were recieving poor instruction to 
> begin with - they just didn't like the steps (tey needed to have some 
> introspection)
> 
> 4.  Go diving.  I am diving atleast bi-weekly (many times weekly), but I 
> have the benefit of many deep coastal caves in the Tampa area.  Yu want 
> to climb Everest, then one needs to work out constantly and start with 
> the smaller sand hills.  Seems that many of the technical community 
> divers forget that a plunge to perhaps 200 feet is not a walk in the 
> park.  If you cannot logistalliy dedicate time to dive, your skills will 
> never be sharp enough to tackle more elaborate dives.  Just natural 
> law.  Hell, I feel goofy after a two week lay-off, couldn't imagine a 
> month or two.
> 
> 5.  Take quality classes - NAUI, GUE, from whomever you find that meets 
> the criteria eported in JJ's Fundamentals book.
> 
> 
> 6.  All of the above
> 
> Enough ranting - I just have been reading the list for a year, and seen 
> the same suff over and over and over again.
> 
> James Funderburk
> Tampa, Florida
> NAUI Trimix Instructor
> 
>> From: "Brian Garner" <brian@le*.co*.uk*>
>> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Subject: Harnes rigging
>> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:49:08 +0100
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> I usually only follow the list and have never posted before.
>> I would like some info on rigging a harness. How much slack should 
>> there be in the shoulder straps part? oes anyone have a strarting 
>> measurement for this length?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance
>>
>> B Garner.
> 
> 
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