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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "Jonas & Lotta Pavletic" <jonas.lotta@ho*.se*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Deco line question
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 17:18:25 -0400

This would make about as much sense as asking why people spray paint
graffiti on the subway, only the graffiti answers will sound more
intelligent. It is the same reason you always see people in the crowd in
Middle East demonstrations firing automatic weapons into the air - same
mentality as NE wreck diving. EXACTLY.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas & Lotta Pavletic [mailto:jonas.lotta@ho*.se*]
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 3:09 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Deco line question



Just to clear my confusion:

Can someone please explain how the "Jersey reel" system works (or not
works ;)

This is something I haven't heard of before...

Thanx

	/Dragan

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Tom & Dee Scott [mailto:cherokee@ne*.ne*]
Skickat: den 28 april 2002 16:21
Till: trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Ämne: RE: Deco line question

Thanks George! I appreciate your honesty. I'm not advocating such
things,
just sorting out in my head why things I was previously taught may no
longer apply to safe diving.

Tom
]

At 07:39 AM 4/28/02, George Irvine wrote:


>If there is no current, staying hooked to the wreck is fine, but
>unnecessary. If you have a wreck buoyed , like JJ did on the Britannic
or
>Deans used to do in the Keys , where there is an upline from the wreck
that
>stops below the surface with an underwater ball or bag, then the
options are
>to tie to that with no current or to break from it with lift bag or
float if
>there is current.
>
>The "Jersey" reel bullshit is for the Star Wars Bar Scene crowd where
there
>is no plan, there is no cooperation between divers, where there are no
>buddies, where everyone does "their own thing", and is a typical
solution
>that we get from the bottom of the diving barrel ( the NE). Not to
mention
>the fact of carrying such a ridiculous piece of crap and running up
lines on
>everything you dive like a dog pissing on bushes, multiplied by the
number
>of solo diving tough guys on the boat, etc. is nonsense.
>
>The real simple way of figuring out if something is bullshit or not in
>diving is to ask where  it started. If anyone can show me anything EVER
>developed in NE diving that is anything but ridiculous, I will give
them a
>scooter.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Scott [mailto:cherokee@ne*.ne*]
>Sent: Friday, April 27, 3612 10:21 AM
>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Deco line question
>
>
>Thought I'd try this question here for a horse's mouth answer: Since
using a
>deco line hooked to the bottom (rather than shooting a bag and
drifting) is
>considered acceptable by DIR standards (at least it is described in the
DIR
>Fundamentals book), why has the old "Jersey reel" system fallen so much
out
>of favor?
>
>
>
>The only thing I can think of is that the between the doubles mounting
>system could be considered an entanglement hazard. Are there more
reasons?
>
>
>
>Thanks much,
>
>
>
>Tom Scott
>
>
>
>
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