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From: "Chris Silkman" <cs@ex*.co*>
To: "'Skip MacElhannon'" <skipmac@co*.co*>,
     "'John H. Adair III'" ,
     "'Timothy Doty'"
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Tech Program
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:53:24 -0400


Well said!



-----Original Message-----
From: Skip MacElhannon [mailto:skipmac@co*.co*] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:10 PM
To: John H. Adair III; 'Timothy Doty'
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Tech Program

I have to wonder about a diver that is afraid of asking questions on
techdiver because someone might call them names or say something mean.
So far I have not heard of any deaths or injuries resulting from flames
on the internet.  

If one cannot handle a little online stress how might they react to a
real problem underwater?



At 09:43 AM 4/18/02 -0400, John H. Adair III wrote:
> 
>Tim,
>  No one has ever been "ripped to shreds" for asking questions on this
list,
>even by GI3.  The ripping starts when someone gets on the list,
explains in
>detail how "they do it" and than challenges the list to dispute it, all
>while in the form of a "question".  Ask a question about DIR and you
will
>get an answer, ask about personal preference, and you will get an
answer,
>then you decide which makes more sense and remember to also make sure
you
>take into consideration the track record of the "teacher".
>  Pick up the copy of DIR fundamentals and read it in conjunction with
"The
>Last Dive", if the right way and wrong way is not obviously clear, sell
you
>gear and take up golf.
>
>
>John Adair
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Timothy Doty [mailto:TDoty@vi*.or*]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 5:40 PM
>To: Bob Sherwood
>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Re: Tech Program
>
>
>
>
>
>>how's the pursuit of knowledge going?
>Always learning!
>
>>The season is here and the temp is almost to bearable....well almost.
>I don't think I would want to do too long a dive but 45 minutes or so
isn't
>bad.  Jim and I try to get a dive in every month even in the winter.
The
>challenge in the winter isn't the cold so much as finding something
>interesting to dive.  In the winter we usually don't stray to far and
>diving in the Finger Lakes isn't that exciting to start with.
>
>>This list is always  adversarial.  Someone always has a different
opinion
>as to what is >right.
>I don't have problem with a difference of opinion but the saying goes
>something like catching more flies with honey then vinegar.  In the
brief
>discussion we had at Beneath the Sea you where able to make your points
in
>a persuasive way, and as I'm sure you know that's the only way to
convince
>people your right.  All the name calling on this list and others takes
me
>back to grade school!
>
>>Easiest way to weed through it all, is to gain as much info as
possible,
>That's one thing the GUE site does very well, very informative!
>
>>don't be afraid to ask questions,
>I bet there are plenty of people who are interested in tech diving and
have
>a question but don't ask because they are afraid of being ripped to
shreds!
>I see that as the problem.  The DIR mind set would spread a lot faster
if
>individuals who claim to promote it would change their demeanor.  It
gets
>to the point where an individual doesn't care if it's right or not,
they
>just don't want to be involved with that kind of personality.
>
>>and develop a thicker skin by not taking things to personal.
>LOL!  You should see me at work!
>
>>Oh, and if you learned it from PADI.... it is probably WRONG
>Your killin me!
>
>>Do you have a copy of the DIR fundamentals book yet?
>No but no matter what program I go with I plan to pick one up.
>
>>Tell you what I'm gonna do.....just to prove that I'm not as bad as
rumors
>would have >you think <G>
>You must have me confused with a different PADI chap, I was actually
>thinking I liked you to much for you to be a DIR evangelist.
>
>>If you wanna stop by, I'll give you a copy to get you started in the
right
>direction.
>I might just do that!
>
>Take care
>Tim
>
>
>
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