Let's face it Scott, every single diver I know "knows" a SEAL. Yes I have
great respect for Navy SEALs and think they can kick the ass of anyone we
put them up against in their special theatre of operations given proper
leadership. That SEAL that was left behind by the helo sounds like a Class
A-1 Charley Foxtrot to me and I am hoping that this war will flush out the
incompetents, brown-nosers and Clinton appointees who were responsible for
this man's death.

I have not heard any reports of Tysall himself spouting that he's an
ex-SEAL, only the deep air morons he seems to surround himself with saying
so. As I said, everybody knows a SEAL. When Tysall was here all he did was
talk about wreck diving and showed us some cool photos, nothing about SEALs.
Now if he is going beyond his resume and actually telling people he was a
SEAL, I will agree with you and will call him a lying scumbag as well.

It is a pity that Tysall is behind the curve on modern diving theory and
practice. We really need to get people like Tysall on the DIR bandwagon, he
would have the influence to get through some of the more thick-headed Doing
It Wrong types and impressionable newbies.

Also I would like to point out that the Navy has different kinds of divers.
You have your basic barnacle-scraper, bung-knocker Seabee types (like the
guys doing the Monitor) then you have your demolition and mine clearing
types (UDT) then you have your special operations hunters and killers
(SEALs).

Yes 500' dives are insanity and so were Mt. Everest trips before they became
commercialized. I suppose "because it's there" can apply to scuba diving as
well as mountain climbing.

   Jim

On 3/17/02 1:31 PM, "Scott" <scottkoplin@ya*.co*> wrote:

> --- Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> wrote:
>> It appears from his resume that he got into BUD/S
>> and washed out. He did not
>> state this but its obvious from looking at the
>> timeline.
> 
> (preface: this is not pointed at you, Jim, just posing
> questions I find relevent)
> 
> I dont know, all I know is that Tysall, his buds and
> PADI present him as an ex SEAL. Which is 100% untrue.
> Since that is false (and that's a biggy!) it calls
> into question other claims, such as the claim he is a
> US Navy Diving Instructor. Hard to believe. SCUBA and
> combat swimmer course are usually taught by guys who
> do and have done the work. If he is so smart, and such
> a together diver, how do we explain the DSAT CF and
> his gear and gas choices?
> 
> He may be the nicest guy on earth, he shouldnt claim
> to be a SEAL when he is not. To some of us, it is a
> big deal. 
> 
>> Nothing wrong with washing out of BUD/S, the
>> attrition rates are very high
>> and it takes a great deal of courage just to try out
>> for UDT/SEALs. Don't
>> know if I'd put it on my resume, however.
> 
> As I said earlier, it doesnt really matter. 99% of
> dives a SEAL does are insertion dives, at night, with
> an O2 RB at less than 30FSW or so. Such experience has
> nothing to do with technical, planned deco or
> recreational diving.
> 
>> Terrance came down and did a presentation to our
>> VBTech group and I found
>> him to be an engaging speaker and a real wreck
>> diving enthusiast. He's the
>> kind of guy you would not mind being stuck on a dive
>> boat with when the
>> conditions are less than ideal. I did not get the
>> feeling he was a charlatan
>> and BS artist like some people I have met in the
>> dive industry.
> 
> Silverstein used come off pretty good too at first,
> until the word got out...
> 
>> I got the impression that he is a sharp fellow who
>> is trying to make a
>> living at doing something he loves. And if anyone
>> can come up with a reason
>> against doing that, I'd love to hear it.
> 
> Far out, more power to him.
> 
> Dont do it on the backs of men who earned their title,
> and bury their brothers.
> 
> The SEAL guys are on it now, and they are going to
> determine just how much other BS the guy is spouting
> about the Navy credentials he claims, and give the
> chance to answer for the discrepancies. At this point,
> without a real compelling list of reasons why things
> look fishy, he is a good candidate for the Wall of
> Shame. One way or another, he has some explaining to
> do.
> 
> http://www.cyberseals.org/whywedoit.htm
> 
>> As far as doing the Fitz is concerned you all seem
>> to think that doing a
>> dive like this you simply climb on a boat with your
>> doubles and then step
>> off the boat when you are more or less over the
>> wreck, then come back up.
> 
> Personally, I think it's insanity. What was the
> purpose of the dive, other than to log 500 feet for
> the resume' and piss off the surviving relatives?
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
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