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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>, <christi5@ix*.ne*.co*>,
     "George Irvine" ,
Cc: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "VB Tech" <vbtech@ci*.co*>
Subject: RE: MORE:: RGBM vs VPM Deco Models
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 06:37:33 -0500
Jim, maybe Christina can get on here and entertain us with the best of the
best of her moronic forays into dive discussion, and then tell us all what
she and her idiot pals on the Seeker have done for diving other then make
headlines for disasters and nearly get it outlawed. And they are still
trying hard.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:25 AM
To: christi5@ix*.ne*.co*; George Irvine; brw@la*.go*
Cc: Tech Diver; VB Tech
Subject: Re: MORE:: RGBM vs VPM Deco Models


Christina- I think the point Bruce was trying to make is all deco algorythms
are theory until someone is willing to risk their body to test it and prove
it works. Yes RGBM has been around for a while but then HG Wells predicted
flight to the moon. Using your logic HG Wells should be credited with moon
travel.

The WKPP and others were Bruce's geanie pigs. They subjected themselves to
dives using RGBM tables and then got out of the water and had blood drawn
and doppler tests, over and over and over. They got into chambers and did
wild rides with sensors taped all over their bodies.

I don't know about you, Christina, but just the thought of being an
experimental tables crash-test-dummy makes my adams apple bob.

An awful lot of work went into this research and Bruce deserves to get a
return on his investment. Trying to force him to release the code gratis
using some "public domain" loophole is really pathetic, in my opinion.

   Jim

on 2/24/02 7:26 AM, Christina Young at christi5@ix*.ne*.co* wrote:

> Tsk, tsk, tsk..... so typical.  George, no one in this entire thread
brought
> up or said anything about you or your record (or any record) until you
did,
> intervening in a usual bought of paranoia that, "I "demand" that we tell
how
> we do things that you do not need to know about"....
>
> This wasn't even about you.  It was about RGBM that existed way before
WKPP
> started using it.  When I called you on it, your (typical) response is to
> resort to personal attacks and libelous falsehoods.  If I wanted to be
like
> you, I would call in Alton Hall and threaten to sue for libel, like you do
> whenever anyone comes on here and says you're a cokehead.
>
> Then you go into a typical tirade about me wanting to not give you and
WKPP
> credit, this time for diving with RGBM.  Guess what, many people I know
use
> RGBM (that don't belong to WKPP), and they are all data points that are
> testing it!  As a matter of fact, I acknowledged in my first post that I
> liked it because of the rigorous testing.  That certainly doesn't make
WKPP
> the developer.
>
> Next you go into more about me denying your record... yawn.... none of us
up
> here could really care less about your record.  Or any "record" in diving
> for that matter - the last time I checked this wasn't a competitive sport
> (or a sport at all for that matter).  I just want to explore wrecks and
post
> pictures on my website to bring them to people who can't.  I don't have
some
> big urge to pound my chest and shout, "I'm the best because I've gone
18,000
> feet and you haven't"!  Then you get all upset when people ignore you as a
> bore.  See the anatomy of the thread below.
>
> About my contribution???  I measure my contribution in the number of
e-mails
> I receive from people that tell me they appreciate the pictures I post on
my
> site that allow them to experience in some little way what they otherwise
> wouldn't have been able to see.  That score is 5083.  If you count overall
> hits to all the individual diving pages on my site it is many times
higher.
>
> Oh, and one more thing, everybody knows what I look like (it's posted all
> over my site), and you're the only one that seems to have a problem with
> it....
>


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