Mailing List Archive Mailing List Archive
How many times have I said this "ASK DAVE"? He has been given the full details to the extent known. Sit down, shut up, and take an example from him. As I have also said, I have given out the information to numerous other people. However, you and JT lost that privilege by virtue of your stupidity. There is no "code of silence." There is only a low tolerance for the bullshit and grandstanding that occurs on these lists, of which you and JT are wonderful examples. Mike >From: James Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >Reply-To: <VBTech@ci*.co*> (VBTech list) >To: <VBTech@ci*.co*> (VBTech list) >CC: captjt@mi*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: Re: Last weekend's accident at Little River - newspaper report >Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:03:39 -0500 > >Mikey, the reason I have a bunch of BAD INFORMATION is because YOU ARE NOT >PROVIDING ANY. > >And not only are you not providing any, nobody else is either. I asked for >a >first-hand account on what happened but nobody will talk. Apparently there >is a fear down there that if anything gets out you will blacklist the >source >from any dives AUE is associated with, and lets face it that's most tech >trips in Florida. > >The North East "code of silence" is alive and well and is now well >established in Florida. > >If this is not true then I (and the list most likely) would appreciate a >first hand account from anybody who was associated with this incident. For >the sake of clarity and to stop the rumor mill. Any takers? > >Thank you for all your excellent information on this, Mikey, I feel I am >now >a better diver. > > Jim > >On 2/22/02 10:17 AM, "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> wrote: > > > Jimmy- > > You got a lot of bad information. From the blood issue, to Eric's > > involvement, to evacuation. However, since a few of you were so nice to > > involve my employer, I will kindly tell you all to kiss my ass. If you >want > > the reports, which were filed two days after the incident, call Seattle > > (sorry, no cover-up there either). > > Cheers, > > Mike > > > > > >> From: James Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> > >> To: Michael Barnette <aocfishman@ho*.co*>, <captjt@mi*.co*>, > >> "vbtech@ci*.co*" <vbtech@ci*.co*>, ><techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >> CC: <dwiden@co*.ne*> > >> Subject: Re: Last weekend's accident at Little River - newspaper report > >> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:48:01 -0500 > >> > >> Mike a question for you. > >> > >> As I understand it at the time of the incident the NOAA guy had classic >TOX > >> symptoms, he was convulsing and his mask was full of blood. Eric got >him to > >> the surface and on the dive boat, the Coast Guard took him in and he >got a > >> chamber ride. > >> > >> What is interesting to me about this, does an AGE have the same basic > >> symptoms of a TOX at the time of occurrence? If you have a bubble >shutting > >> off blood to part of your brain, that points to brain damage. A TOX, if >you > >> survive, does not lead to brain damage, if I understand things >correctly. > >> Does the diver have neurological symptoms? How did the doctors >determine it > >> was AGE over TOX? > >> > >> All you AUE guys who still think that "it is simply morbid curiosity >here, > >> and DIR guys trying to make a pathetic point" are simply wrong. I want >to > >> know, from a survivor, what prestages an AGE, what, as divers, should >we be > >> aware of? Certainly if we can recognize the difference between an AGE >and a > >> TOX it would be a really handy thing to know. > >> > >> Certainly you guys want to know, don't you? And if you do know, will >you > >> share your knowledge with us pathetic, low-rent, non-divers? > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> On 2/21/02 10:51 PM, "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> wrote: > >> > >>>> Thanks for bring this up Mike, it makes me wonder about this....... > >> Wasn't > >>>> that a NOAA "sponsored dive"? a NOAA diver that was hurt? if it was >it > >>>> doesn't sound like it was a recreational dive to me, or was this one >of > >>>> those gray areas that is just OK when you do it. > >>>> > >>> > >>> For it to be a NOAA-sponsored dive, you would need to draft a research > >> plan > >>> that has to be reviewed for authorization by the NDP Safety Board. A > >>> NOAA-authorized technical dive has numerous requirements. In >contrast, > >> this > >>> was a recreational dive where each and every person payed a charter >fee. > >>> For me, being a NOAA working diver, it was a non-duty dive. No grey > >> area. > >>> > >>> If you are interested in learning more about the NOAA Dive Program, > >> please > >>> feel free to call the Seattle office. They can bring you up to speed. > >>> > >>> FWIW, the NOAA funded, NURC dives are in March. > >>> > >>> what else ya got chief? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Michael C. Barnette > > Association of Underwater Explorers > > Because it's there...somewhere...maybe. > > http://www.mikey.net/aue > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > --- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list <VBTech@ci*.co*>. > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <VBTech-off@ci*.co*> > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <VBTech-digest@ci*.co*> > > To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <VBTech-index@ci*.co*> > > Send administrative queries to <VBTech-request@ci*.co*> > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list <VBTech@ci*.co*>. >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <VBTech-off@ci*.co*> >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <VBTech-digest@ci*.co*> >To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <VBTech-index@ci*.co*> >Send administrative queries to <VBTech-request@ci*.co*> > Michael C. Barnette Association of Underwater Explorers Because it's there...somewhere...maybe. http://www.mikey.net/aue _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
Navigate by Author:
[Previous]
[Next]
[Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject:
[Previous]
[Next]
[Subject Search Index]
[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]
[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]