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Mikey, the reason I have a bunch of BAD INFORMATION is because YOU ARE NOT PROVIDING ANY. And not only are you not providing any, nobody else is either. I asked for a first-hand account on what happened but nobody will talk. Apparently there is a fear down there that if anything gets out you will blacklist the source from any dives AUE is associated with, and lets face it that's most tech trips in Florida. The North East "code of silence" is alive and well and is now well established in Florida. If this is not true then I (and the list most likely) would appreciate a first hand account from anybody who was associated with this incident. For the sake of clarity and to stop the rumor mill. Any takers? Thank you for all your excellent information on this, Mikey, I feel I am now a better diver. Jim On 2/22/02 10:17 AM, "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> wrote: > Jimmy- > You got a lot of bad information. From the blood issue, to Eric's > involvement, to evacuation. However, since a few of you were so nice to > involve my employer, I will kindly tell you all to kiss my ass. If you want > the reports, which were filed two days after the incident, call Seattle > (sorry, no cover-up there either). > Cheers, > Mike > > >> From: James Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >> To: Michael Barnette <aocfishman@ho*.co*>, <captjt@mi*.co*>, >> "vbtech@ci*.co*" <vbtech@ci*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> CC: <dwiden@co*.ne*> >> Subject: Re: Last weekend's accident at Little River - newspaper report >> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:48:01 -0500 >> >> Mike a question for you. >> >> As I understand it at the time of the incident the NOAA guy had classic TOX >> symptoms, he was convulsing and his mask was full of blood. Eric got him to >> the surface and on the dive boat, the Coast Guard took him in and he got a >> chamber ride. >> >> What is interesting to me about this, does an AGE have the same basic >> symptoms of a TOX at the time of occurrence? If you have a bubble shutting >> off blood to part of your brain, that points to brain damage. A TOX, if you >> survive, does not lead to brain damage, if I understand things correctly. >> Does the diver have neurological symptoms? How did the doctors determine it >> was AGE over TOX? >> >> All you AUE guys who still think that "it is simply morbid curiosity here, >> and DIR guys trying to make a pathetic point" are simply wrong. I want to >> know, from a survivor, what prestages an AGE, what, as divers, should we be >> aware of? Certainly if we can recognize the difference between an AGE and a >> TOX it would be a really handy thing to know. >> >> Certainly you guys want to know, don't you? And if you do know, will you >> share your knowledge with us pathetic, low-rent, non-divers? >> >> Jim >> >> On 2/21/02 10:51 PM, "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> wrote: >> >>>> Thanks for bring this up Mike, it makes me wonder about this....... >> Wasn't >>>> that a NOAA "sponsored dive"? a NOAA diver that was hurt? if it was it >>>> doesn't sound like it was a recreational dive to me, or was this one of >>>> those gray areas that is just OK when you do it. >>>> >>> >>> For it to be a NOAA-sponsored dive, you would need to draft a research >> plan >>> that has to be reviewed for authorization by the NDP Safety Board. A >>> NOAA-authorized technical dive has numerous requirements. In contrast, >> this >>> was a recreational dive where each and every person payed a charter fee. >>> For me, being a NOAA working diver, it was a non-duty dive. No grey >> area. >>> >>> If you are interested in learning more about the NOAA Dive Program, >> please >>> feel free to call the Seattle office. They can bring you up to speed. >>> >>> FWIW, the NOAA funded, NURC dives are in March. >>> >>> what else ya got chief? >>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >>> >>> -- >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>> >> > > > > > Michael C. Barnette > Association of Underwater Explorers > Because it's there...somewhere...maybe. > http://www.mikey.net/aue > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list <VBTech@ci*.co*>. > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <VBTech-off@ci*.co*> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <VBTech-digest@ci*.co*> > To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <VBTech-index@ci*.co*> > Send administrative queries to <VBTech-request@ci*.co*> > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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