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From: "John Mason Jr." <john.mason.jr@au*.co*>
To: <vbtech@ci*.co*>, <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>, <EANX@ao*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Diver Responsibility
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:43:43 -0500
JT,
I agree Christopher Murley made the decision to dive signed the waivers and
went diving, all his choice. I agree that you should be prepared for dying.
You are also correct about families wanting to blame someone. Personally I
think you signed, your responsibility, end of story. But in this case it
seems that people had the attitude of he signed the waiver cash the check,
instead of you don't belong here waiver or not. This may be a little naive,
it is just my opinion.

John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
To: <vbtech@ci*.co*>; <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>;
<vbtech@ci*.co*>; <EANX@ao*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: Diver Responsibility


> John, have you  ever seen a Doria wavier from the Seeker? The one I have
> states " I have been given the opportunity to review this document with
> both my family and legal counsel." that is  initialed and notarized long
> before you ever get on the boat.
>
> We as humans will die as part of living, one must face the fact that he or
> she will someday die. Nothing will change this, that is reality. That is
> why we make wills and prepare of families for this event.  Those who do
not
> accept this fact will surely leave their family in debt and screwed.
>
> Often families want to blame someone else for this poor planning and to
> relieve the burden and guilt they feel for not being more involved in the
> deceased persons life. Clearly,  Lawyers  have different reasons for
> pursuing these cases and justice has nothing to do with it.
>
>
>
>
> Mason Jr"." wrote:
> >Curt,
> >I agree that personal responsibility is the key. However in this case I
> >think some folks should have dissuaded this gentleman from doing this
kind
> >of diving instead of  enabling it. It has a bit of moral/ethical
messiness
> >to accept money from someone who by all accounts should not be there just
> >because he signed a waiver.
> >
> >John Mason
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <EANX@ao*.co*>
> >To: <dell@di*.co*>; <trimix@ho*.co*>; <aocfishman@ho*.co*>;
> ><FLTechDiver@mikey.net>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> >Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:14 PM
> >Subject: Diver Responsibility
> >
> >
> > > Again, another case of family members trying to make an excuse for a
love
> >one
> > > lost.
> > >
> > > If you sign a waiver saying you accepts the risk involved then it
should
> >be
> > > written in stone. All we need is one case being lost because of some
> >crafty
> > > (crooked) lawyer and all our diving could go to pot.
> > >
> > > Divers and their families need to start taking responsibility for what
> >ever
> > > they get themselves involved with.  If not, then maybe they should
stay
> >home
> > > in bed, but then again they might sue the mattress company for bed
sores.
> > >
> > > This includes all divers, no matter their physical fitness.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Curt Bowen
> > >
> > > Publisher Advanced Diver Magazine
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