----- Original Message -----
From: "John Mason Jr." <
> Curt,
> I agree that personal responsibility is the key. However in this case I
> think some folks should have dissuaded this gentleman from doing this kind
> of diving instead of  enabling it. It has a bit of moral/ethical messiness
> to accept money from someone who by all accounts should not be there just
> because he signed a waiver.


You guys are missing one of the giant underlying reasons..  The victim was
one of only two paying passengers..  Everyone else on the trip was
freeloading, so if they talkied this guy out of diving they couldn't have
freeloaded..

The notion that this guy could start trimix training with 27 dives and
attempt to do the Doria with only 87 dives under his belt defies logic..
Now factor in that he was fat and out of shape, he had health problems [ ie;
diabetes], and his training was a clusterfuck, what would you expect the
results to be???

My initial reaction to this lawsuit was that I also believed that the family
was just looking for nuisance money, but after reading the coroner's report,
if it turns out to be factual, then Joe Jackson has got a lot to answer for,
as well as TDI hiding behind some creative language respecting the 100 dive
minimum, but it could be waived at the instructor's discretion..

Later



>
> John Mason
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:14 PM
> Subject: Diver Responsibility
>
>
> > Again, another case of family members trying to make an excuse for a
love
> one
> > lost.
> >
> > If you sign a waiver saying you accepts the risk involved then it should
> be
> > written in stone. All we need is one case being lost because of some
> crafty
> > (crooked) lawyer and all our diving could go to pot.
> >
> > Divers and their families need to start taking responsibility for what
> ever
> > they get themselves involved with.  If not, then maybe they should stay
> home
> > in bed, but then again they might sue the mattress company for bed
sores.
> >
> > This includes all divers, no matter their physical fitness.
> >
> >
> >
> > Curt Bowen
> >
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