At 03:09 PM 2/7/02 -0800, Joe wrote:

>If you think or expect something bad to happen it will.

Not true, if you always expect something to happen or think there is the 
possibility that it could happen or it has a high risk factor, then you 
will be prepare to handle that event should it in fact DO HAPPEN. I think 
we call it planning.......


>Regards.
>
>Joe
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Mount <tom.mount@ia*.co*>
>To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; chris cole <trimix@ho*.co*>;
><aocfishman@ho*.co*>; <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
>Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:42 AM
>Subject: Re: (another) diver death lawsuit
>
>
> > Interesting
> >
> > But in my early military days I learned to accept that death is a
> > possibility, that may even become a probability if the risk of the
>activity
> > is high enough.
> >
> > However it is never a certainty, in my philosophy I accept the fact that I
> > can die doing any activity I pursue (including driving to and from work)
>So
> > I accept the possibility of dying and thus plan so that the possibility or
> > even probability does not become a certainty. I think that anytime someone
> > breathes underwater they should accept there is possibility of dying due
>to
> > such things as bumping your head in the swimming pool. that keeps us from
> > making the mistakes that may lead to death from behaviors people who do
>not
> > realize that possibility exist would take. I think many divers die because
> > they do not accept the possibility that you can die doing just bout
>anything
> > we do in life.
> >
> > I think my philosophy on this issue has saved my life on numerous times,
>in
> > military, in diving , climbing, and in many other of my activities even
> > martial arts. Awareness of a risk  is the key to avoiding the occurrence.
> > Just my thoughts
> >
> > I do accept the risk and I do enjoy the activity
> >
> > Tom Mount
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dell Motes" <dell@di*.co*>
> > To: "chris cole" <trimix@ho*.co*>; <aocfishman@ho*.co*>;
> > <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: (another) diver death lawsuit
> >
> >
> > > Hey there Chris,
> > > I, for one, was never taught that death was a real possibility. I would
> > find
> > > it un-acceptable as being on my list of possible occurences to prepare
>for
> > > during a dive.
> > > After many years of experience, it continues to be un-acceptable to me.
> > > Several years ago, more than one friend told me of this being stated
> > during
> > > a particular project. Something to the effect that, "this is so risky,
> > that
> > > odds are someone will not survive".
> > > That works to sell movies, but anyone that accepts that as normal SOP is
> > not
> > > on the same page as I am. That is absolutely ludicrus to continue
>planning
> > > death as a factor in logistics, or any undertaking for that matter.
> > > It has and will continue to happen, but I do not consider it acceptable
>at
> > > any level of play.
> > > Maybe I could be considered a coward by some, but I don't subscribe to
>the
> > > daredevil stuff.
> > > I plan to make it home when I 'm done, and I don't mind telling anybody
> > I'm
> > > diving with what they need to hear in order for me to meet my goals.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Dell Motes
> > > Research & Development
> > > Dive Rite
> > > 117 West Washington Street
> > > Lake City, Florida 32055
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "chris cole" <trimix@ho*.co*>
> > > To: <aocfishman@ho*.co*>; <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>;
> > > <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> > > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (another) diver death lawsuit
> > >
> > >
> > > > FOR WHAT ITS WORTH!
> > > >
> > > > Tec Diving is an inherently dangerous sport in which we all were
>taught
> > > that
> > > > DEATH is a real possibility. It should not be up to a dive boat to
>play
> > > > mother to any level of diver and certainly not to a trained Tec diver.
> > > Yes,
> > > > the instructor should accept some responsibility for certifying a
>person
> > > > that is obviously out of shape. I am an IT for IANTD and have had
> > several
> > > > occasions where overweight, people have come to me for Tec training, I
> > am
> > > > very hard on my students, both physically and mentally, the joke is
>that
> > > if
> > > > you survive my classes that there isn't much that you have to worry
> > about
> > >
> > > > later. Yes, I am prejudice against those I view to be not fit for
> > diving.
> > > I
> > > > am even harder on them.
> > > > If you are over weight, not medically fit, or not psychologically fit
> > than
> > > > do us all a favor. DON'T DIVE! I, quite frankly don't care if you kill
> > > > yourself, but you endanger all those who dive with you as well as the
> > > > freedom we have from governmental intervention.
> > > >
> > > >                                        Chris Cole
> > > >
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