What you say is true.  I guess what I was refering to is the power of a
positive mental attitude.  Recognizing someone can die and having a healthy
respect for that fact vs allowing a negative outlook unwittingly cause it.

If you think or expect something bad to happen it will.

Regards.

Joe



----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Mount <tom.mount@ia*.co*>
To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; chris cole <trimix@ho*.co*>;
<aocfishman@ho*.co*>; <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: (another) diver death lawsuit


> Interesting
>
> But in my early military days I learned to accept that death is a
> possibility, that may even become a probability if the risk of the
activity
> is high enough.
>
> However it is never a certainty, in my philosophy I accept the fact that I
> can die doing any activity I pursue (including driving to and from work)
So
> I accept the possibility of dying and thus plan so that the possibility or
> even probability does not become a certainty. I think that anytime someone
> breathes underwater they should accept there is possibility of dying due
to
> such things as bumping your head in the swimming pool. that keeps us from
> making the mistakes that may lead to death from behaviors people who do
not
> realize that possibility exist would take. I think many divers die because
> they do not accept the possibility that you can die doing just bout
anything
> we do in life.
>
> I think my philosophy on this issue has saved my life on numerous times,
in
> military, in diving , climbing, and in many other of my activities even
> martial arts. Awareness of a risk  is the key to avoiding the occurrence.
> Just my thoughts
>
> I do accept the risk and I do enjoy the activity
>
> Tom Mount
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dell Motes" <dell@di*.co*>
> To: "chris cole" <trimix@ho*.co*>; <aocfishman@ho*.co*>;
> <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: (another) diver death lawsuit
>
>
> > Hey there Chris,
> > I, for one, was never taught that death was a real possibility. I would
> find
> > it un-acceptable as being on my list of possible occurences to prepare
for
> > during a dive.
> > After many years of experience, it continues to be un-acceptable to me.
> > Several years ago, more than one friend told me of this being stated
> during
> > a particular project. Something to the effect that, "this is so risky,
> that
> > odds are someone will not survive".
> > That works to sell movies, but anyone that accepts that as normal SOP is
> not
> > on the same page as I am. That is absolutely ludicrus to continue
planning
> > death as a factor in logistics, or any undertaking for that matter.
> > It has and will continue to happen, but I do not consider it acceptable
at
> > any level of play.
> > Maybe I could be considered a coward by some, but I don't subscribe to
the
> > daredevil stuff.
> > I plan to make it home when I 'm done, and I don't mind telling anybody
> I'm
> > diving with what they need to hear in order for me to meet my goals.
> > Best Regards,
> > Dell Motes
> > Research & Development
> > Dive Rite
> > 117 West Washington Street
> > Lake City, Florida 32055
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chris cole" <trimix@ho*.co*>
> > To: <aocfishman@ho*.co*>; <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>;
> > <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: (another) diver death lawsuit
> >
> >
> > > FOR WHAT ITS WORTH!
> > >
> > > Tec Diving is an inherently dangerous sport in which we all were
taught
> > that
> > > DEATH is a real possibility. It should not be up to a dive boat to
play
> > > mother to any level of diver and certainly not to a trained Tec diver.
> > Yes,
> > > the instructor should accept some responsibility for certifying a
person
> > > that is obviously out of shape. I am an IT for IANTD and have had
> several
> > > occasions where overweight, people have come to me for Tec training, I
> am
> > > very hard on my students, both physically and mentally, the joke is
that
> > if
> > > you survive my classes that there isn't much that you have to worry
> about
> >
> > > later. Yes, I am prejudice against those I view to be not fit for
> diving.
> > I
> > > am even harder on them.
> > > If you are over weight, not medically fit, or not psychologically fit
> than
> > > do us all a favor. DON'T DIVE! I, quite frankly don't care if you kill
> > > yourself, but you endanger all those who dive with you as well as the
> > > freedom we have from governmental intervention.
> > >
> > >                                        Chris Cole
> > >
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