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Sorry , asshole, I don' t care enough about going diving to do that. I sit
on the boat if I feel anything is not the way I want it, and I have driven
the 462 miles to Tallahassee and put my gear back in the van and done home
without diving, on many occasions, when I did not like the situation.

You fucking little strokes can yap all you want, but what I say and what I
do are a perfect match. What my friends do does not change that, no matter
how hard you try. You post below remains idiotic bullshit.

When any of you can match my contribution or my track record, speak up. If
you want to be patted on the head for being a moron, post to rec scuba where
nobody knows any better.

This is supposed to be a tech list, not an assholes in the dive business and
strokes in line to see the Wizard list. Most of you are textbook Wizard
seekers. Get in line behind the Lion, the Tin Man, and the Scarecrow, and
see if the Wiz will give you that set of balls that you so desperately seek,
rather than trying to find them in doing stupid things in the water and
looking for validation for doing so.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: g.wentland [mailto:wentland@no*.ed*]
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:43 PM
  To: Tech Diver List
  Subject: DIR and Solo Diving


  I remember posting the following on techdiver last Septmeber regarding
Mike Pizzio diving solo and I remember the number of people who jumped on my
case because of how unsafe they thought it was, I believe that one reputable
individual stated that he would sit on the boat rather than dive solo or
maybe we are not comparing apples to apples. Or maybe it's not what is said
but who says it?

  After experiencing lots of diving down here as a divemaster doing
  recreational charters, I know where Mike is coming from. I got so that I
  found diving more relaxing and safer diving solo than with a buddy picked
at
  random from the dive boat. A lot of times I would end up diving with the
  least skilled of the bunch. I would get to repeatedly save their butt, do
to
  things like not being weighted properly, losing a tank, not watching their
  air supply, or a host of other barn yard stupid things that can be
expected
  if one dives a couple times a year. These kind of people/tourists are the
  bread & butter of  most dive boats in S. Florida. In my mind one is safer
  diving alone and one has more of a worry free dive when you don't have to
  worry about your buddy attacking you to get at your air supply or rushing
to
  the surface in a state of panic after seeing a nurse shark.
      I saw Mike dive with people like this repeatedly and I can say that
this
  sort of thing gets old. It starts to take the fun out of diving. Your
nerves
  start to frazzle and you wonder how people can take such risks with their
  and your life, and you wonder who the hell trained this guy or girl. It
can
  get pretty frustrating as there seems to be an endless supply of these
twice
  a year, poorly trained divers out there.
      I found that if I dive as a divemaster solo, I can make the rounds and
  save more barnyard stupid new divers from themselves.
      It is a great thing to always have a good buddy to dive with, but
  someone needs to look out for the newbies of diving or the death toll &
  insurance rates will sky rocket. Due to these continual experiences I find
  diving much more relaxing solo too. I have jumped countless wrecks solo. I
  will admit that it is not the safest act in the world, but it gets the job
  done. No one wants to go for a sand dive. Most buddies can not keep up
with
  me going down. If your buddy stops because he can't clear his ears, that
is
  the end of the dive, maybe for the whole boat. Grappling is a good idea as
  long as you do not grapple debris off the side of the wreck somewhere, or
  the grapple does not unhook. Remember recreational divers don't carry lift
  bags. If they did it would be a nightmare. I guess I'm done ramblin' on
for
  the moment.
   This is the reactive mentality that both I and Mike became used to.
George,
  I would bet that you have been in our shoes at one time. You know, where
it
  is safer to dive by yourself than with the people on the boat?
  Have a great day &
  Good Diving,
  Bye,
  George



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, asshole, I don' t care enough about going diving to do that. I sit on =
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fucking little strokes can yap all you want, but what I say and what I =
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perfect match. What my friends do does not change that, no matter how =
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any of you can match my contribution or my track record, speak up. If =
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is supposed to be a tech list, not an assholes in the dive business and =
strokes=20
in line to see the Wizard list. Most of you are textbook Wizard seekers. =
Get in=20
line behind the Lion, the Tin Man, and the Scarecrow, and see if the Wiz =
will=20
give you that set of balls that you so desperately seek, rather than =
trying to=20
find them in doing stupid things in the water and looking for validation =
for=20
doing so.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> g.wentland=20
  [mailto:wentland@no*.ed*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 31, 2002
=
2:43=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tech Diver List<BR><B>Subject:</B> DIR and
Solo=20
  Diving<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I remember posting the following on =
techdiver=20
  last Septmeber regarding Mike Pizzio diving solo and I remember the =
number of=20
  people who jumped on my case because of how unsafe they thought it =
was, I=20
  believe that one reputable individual stated that he would sit on the =
boat=20
  rather than dive solo or maybe we are not comparing apples to apples. =
Or maybe=20
  it's not what is said but who says it?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>After experiencing lots of diving down here as a divemaster=20
  doing<BR>recreational charters, I know where Mike is coming from. I =
got so=20
  that I<BR>found diving more relaxing and safer diving solo than with a =
buddy=20
  picked at<BR>random from the dive boat. A lot of times I would end up =
diving=20
  with the<BR>least skilled of the bunch. I would get to repeatedly save =
their=20
  butt, do to<BR>things like not being weighted properly, losing a tank, =
not=20
  watching their<BR>air supply, or a host of other barn yard stupid =
things that=20
  can be expected<BR>if one dives a couple times a year. These kind of=20
  people/tourists are the<BR>bread & butter of  most dive boats =
in S.=20
  Florida. In my mind one is safer<BR>diving alone and one has more of a =
worry=20
  free dive when you don't have to<BR>worry about your buddy attacking =
you to=20
  get at your air supply or rushing to<BR>the surface in a state of =
panic after=20
  seeing a nurse shark.<BR>    I saw Mike dive with =
people like=20
  this repeatedly and I can say that this<BR>sort of thing gets old. It =
starts=20
  to take the fun out of diving. Your nerves<BR>start to frazzle and you =
wonder=20
  how people can take such risks with their<BR>and your life, and you =
wonder who=20
  the hell trained this guy or girl. It can<BR>get pretty frustrating as =
there=20
  seems to be an endless supply of these twice<BR>a year, poorly trained =
divers=20
  out there.<BR>    I found that if I dive as a =
divemaster solo,=20
  I can make the rounds and<BR>save more barnyard stupid new divers from =

  themselves.<BR>    It is a great thing to always have a =
good=20
  buddy to dive with, but<BR>someone needs to look out for the newbies =
of diving=20
  or the death toll &<BR>insurance rates will sky rocket. Due to =
these=20
  continual experiences I find<BR>diving much more relaxing solo too. I =
have=20
  jumped countless wrecks solo. I<BR>will admit that it is not the =
safest act in=20
  the world, but it gets the job<BR>done. No one wants to go for a sand =
dive.=20
  Most buddies can not keep up with<BR>me going down. If your buddy =
stops=20
  because he can't clear his ears, that is<BR>the end of the dive, maybe =
for the=20
  whole boat. Grappling is a good idea as<BR>long as you do not grapple =
debris=20
  off the side of the wreck somewhere, or<BR>the grapple does not =
unhook.=20
  Remember recreational divers don't carry lift<BR>bags. If they did it =
would be=20
  a nightmare. I guess I'm done ramblin' on for<BR>the =
moment.<BR> This is=20
  the reactive mentality that both I and Mike became used to. =
George,<BR>I would=20
  bet that you have been in our shoes at one time. You know, where =
it<BR>is=20
  safer to dive by yourself than with the people on the boat? </DIV>
  <DIV>Have a great day &<BR>Good=20
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