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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "Liam Gruffud" <liamgruffud@ho*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: DIR and Solo Diving
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 06:41:14 -0500
OK, Lee, if you think lying about me with a fake account is any smarter than
doing it with your own account, think again.

Being on the "outside" is the most accurate thing you have ever said.

I made it clear what I think, and I make it clear what I think. If any of
you little anonymous pussies had anything to say worthy of anyone listening,
you would be proud to say it with your name attacked.

Pina is not in the "habit of solo diving", you lying asshole, but she is in
the habit of fraternizing with people whom I would not give the time of day.
She has many friends, everyone likes her, and she loves to go diving here in
S Florida. I do , too, but I also spend from 7 to 6 in the office , and what
little time is left doing everything else I need to do, like working out and
working on my dive gear.

P, like everyone else, learns from me, and she has learned what I told her
all along - assholes are not your friends, and you can not teach pigs to
sing. I treat assholes like assholes, and I don't waste my time with pigs.

Again, when you or anyone else on this planet ( other than Jablonski) can
match my contribution or example in this game, I will kiss your ass in
Macy's window.

One of these days the guy who owns this list will ax the anonymous part,
just like he axed the posting from sendmail by using the confirmation
method. Then you losers and dive industry geniuses will have to sit by and
watch. I will tell you that lying about me is not a good idea, and I can
give you some references to check with and see how bad it gets when I decide
to spend the 100 bucks it cost me to get Mitch Skaggs name from hotmail and
earthlink.

Nobody who has been around will listen to anonymous pussies, but somebody
out there will believe what you say, and that , I can assure you , can cost
you some serious money, and I am the master of pressing that to the wall. I
hate idiots , and I hate losers. You are a loser, and now I see you are also
an idiot. Only an idiot continues to fuck with me.

If you want to contest some aspect of diving, I will be glad to accommodate
you - maybe somebody will be helped by that. Nobody but you and your bruised
little weenie ego is getting anything from this, and I will be glad to waste
all the bandwidth possible running this into the ground.


-----Original Message-----
From: Liam Gruffud [mailto:liamgruffud@ho*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:24 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: DIR and Solo Diving


>From: "Flank, Bernard" <Bernard.Flank@tu*.co*>
>Funny, I didn't think that the definition of a stroke was someone guilty of
>stroke behavior.  I thought that it was someone who:
>
>	1. Engages in stroke behavior
>	2. Is informed of the error of their ways
>	3. Refuses to acknowledge the error and modify the behavior.

This is a perfectly acceptable definition to me.  Pina certainly engaged in
stroke behavior.  Also, from Trey's first post, we learned that she is in
the habit of solo diving off boats and that he doesn't approve.  I did not
read her post to suggest she wouldn't do it again.  Rather, she admitted it,
and then attempted to justify her strokery by attacking the person who
busted her and everyone else on the boat that day.  Also, she has not said
she wouldn't do it again.

Frank, I think you have a perfect definition and if the shoe fits.....

I think this definition should be applied to all equally, not just those on
the outside.

Later,

Liam


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