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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "g.wentland" <wentland@no*.ed*>,
     "Tech Diver List"
Subject: RE: DIR and Solo Diving
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:00:09 -0500
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And, asshole, I asked Mike Pizzio to come dive with us rather than continue
to go out on boats full of losers and dive by himself. He is somebody who is
worth the effort. 99% of you are not, since you bring nothing to the table.

Pina is somebody worth the time and effort, and now she has seen that the
losers out there are real, not my imagination.

You are a loser, and you will stay a loser, and nobody can fix that. Just
like the asshole who died solo diving that Pizzio reported. That loser got
on here and told me how fucked up I am, right before he bought it. You ,
like all strokes, are feeling lucky and are thinking that it can not happen
to a bid time tough guy like you.

Shit like you sets the worst kind of example. I had a dive instructor who no
longer dove deep air tell me he went to 375 on air. He never should have
told anyone that, even if he did do it. That is where you fucking losers
just do not get it.

I do things that none of you can even imagine, but you don't see me playing
big time tough guy and recommending anything stupid, yet we see you who have
done nothing yapping, and yapping and yapping about how stupid things are
real cook. You are what I hate in this sport.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: g.wentland [mailto:wentland@no*.ed*]
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:43 PM
  To: Tech Diver List
  Subject: DIR and Solo Diving


  I remember posting the following on techdiver last Septmeber regarding
Mike Pizzio diving solo and I remember the number of people who jumped on my
case because of how unsafe they thought it was, I believe that one reputable
individual stated that he would sit on the boat rather than dive solo or
maybe we are not comparing apples to apples. Or maybe it's not what is said
but who says it?

  After experiencing lots of diving down here as a divemaster doing
  recreational charters, I know where Mike is coming from. I got so that I
  found diving more relaxing and safer diving solo than with a buddy picked
at
  random from the dive boat. A lot of times I would end up diving with the
  least skilled of the bunch. I would get to repeatedly save their butt, do
to
  things like not being weighted properly, losing a tank, not watching their
  air supply, or a host of other barn yard stupid things that can be
expected
  if one dives a couple times a year. These kind of people/tourists are the
  bread & butter of  most dive boats in S. Florida. In my mind one is safer
  diving alone and one has more of a worry free dive when you don't have to
  worry about your buddy attacking you to get at your air supply or rushing
to
  the surface in a state of panic after seeing a nurse shark.
      I saw Mike dive with people like this repeatedly and I can say that
this
  sort of thing gets old. It starts to take the fun out of diving. Your
nerves
  start to frazzle and you wonder how people can take such risks with their
  and your life, and you wonder who the hell trained this guy or girl. It
can
  get pretty frustrating as there seems to be an endless supply of these
twice
  a year, poorly trained divers out there.
      I found that if I dive as a divemaster solo, I can make the rounds and
  save more barnyard stupid new divers from themselves.
      It is a great thing to always have a good buddy to dive with, but
  someone needs to look out for the newbies of diving or the death toll &
  insurance rates will sky rocket. Due to these continual experiences I find
  diving much more relaxing solo too. I have jumped countless wrecks solo. I
  will admit that it is not the safest act in the world, but it gets the job
  done. No one wants to go for a sand dive. Most buddies can not keep up
with
  me going down. If your buddy stops because he can't clear his ears, that
is
  the end of the dive, maybe for the whole boat. Grappling is a good idea as
  long as you do not grapple debris off the side of the wreck somewhere, or
  the grapple does not unhook. Remember recreational divers don't carry lift
  bags. If they did it would be a nightmare. I guess I'm done ramblin' on
for
  the moment.
   This is the reactive mentality that both I and Mike became used to.
George,
  I would bet that you have been in our shoes at one time. You know, where
it
  is safer to dive by yourself than with the people on the boat?
  Have a great day &
  Good Diving,
  Bye,
  George



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asshole, I asked Mike Pizzio to come dive with us rather than continue =
to go out=20
on boats full of losers and dive by himself. He is somebody who is worth =
the=20
effort. 99% of you are not, since you bring nothing to the table.=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Pina=20
is somebody worth the time and effort, and now she has seen that the =
losers out=20
there are real, not my imagination.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>You=20
are a loser, and you will stay a loser, and nobody can fix that. Just =
like the=20
asshole who died solo diving that Pizzio reported. That loser got =
on here=20
and told me how fucked up I am, right before he bought it. You , like =
all=20
strokes, are feeling lucky and are thinking that it can not happen to a =
bid time=20
tough guy like you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Shit=20
like you sets the worst kind of example. I had a dive instructor who no =
longer=20
dove deep air tell me he went to 375 on air. He never should have told =
anyone=20
that, even if he did do it. That is where you fucking losers just do not =
get=20
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I do=20
things that none of you can even imagine, but you don't see me playing =
big time=20
tough guy and recommending anything stupid, yet we see you who have done =
nothing=20
yapping, and yapping and yapping about how stupid things are real cook. =
You are=20
what I hate in this sport.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D721135111-01022002><FONT face=3DArial
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> g.wentland=20
  [mailto:wentland@no*.ed*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 31, 2002
=
2:43=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tech Diver List<BR><B>Subject:</B> DIR and
Solo=20
  Diving<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I remember posting the following on =
techdiver=20
  last Septmeber regarding Mike Pizzio diving solo and I remember the =
number of=20
  people who jumped on my case because of how unsafe they thought it =
was, I=20
  believe that one reputable individual stated that he would sit on the =
boat=20
  rather than dive solo or maybe we are not comparing apples to apples. =
Or maybe=20
  it's not what is said but who says it?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>After experiencing lots of diving down here as a divemaster=20
  doing<BR>recreational charters, I know where Mike is coming from. I =
got so=20
  that I<BR>found diving more relaxing and safer diving solo than with a =
buddy=20
  picked at<BR>random from the dive boat. A lot of times I would end up =
diving=20
  with the<BR>least skilled of the bunch. I would get to repeatedly save =
their=20
  butt, do to<BR>things like not being weighted properly, losing a tank, =
not=20
  watching their<BR>air supply, or a host of other barn yard stupid =
things that=20
  can be expected<BR>if one dives a couple times a year. These kind of=20
  people/tourists are the<BR>bread & butter of  most dive boats =
in S.=20
  Florida. In my mind one is safer<BR>diving alone and one has more of a =
worry=20
  free dive when you don't have to<BR>worry about your buddy attacking =
you to=20
  get at your air supply or rushing to<BR>the surface in a state of =
panic after=20
  seeing a nurse shark.<BR>    I saw Mike dive with =
people like=20
  this repeatedly and I can say that this<BR>sort of thing gets old. It =
starts=20
  to take the fun out of diving. Your nerves<BR>start to frazzle and you =
wonder=20
  how people can take such risks with their<BR>and your life, and you =
wonder who=20
  the hell trained this guy or girl. It can<BR>get pretty frustrating as =
there=20
  seems to be an endless supply of these twice<BR>a year, poorly trained =
divers=20
  out there.<BR>    I found that if I dive as a =
divemaster solo,=20
  I can make the rounds and<BR>save more barnyard stupid new divers from =

  themselves.<BR>    It is a great thing to always have a =
good=20
  buddy to dive with, but<BR>someone needs to look out for the newbies =
of diving=20
  or the death toll &<BR>insurance rates will sky rocket. Due to =
these=20
  continual experiences I find<BR>diving much more relaxing solo too. I =
have=20
  jumped countless wrecks solo. I<BR>will admit that it is not the =
safest act in=20
  the world, but it gets the job<BR>done. No one wants to go for a sand =
dive.=20
  Most buddies can not keep up with<BR>me going down. If your buddy =
stops=20
  because he can't clear his ears, that is<BR>the end of the dive, maybe =
for the=20
  whole boat. Grappling is a good idea as<BR>long as you do not grapple =
debris=20
  off the side of the wreck somewhere, or<BR>the grapple does not =
unhook.=20
  Remember recreational divers don't carry lift<BR>bags. If they did it =
would be=20
  a nightmare. I guess I'm done ramblin' on for<BR>the =
moment.<BR> This is=20
  the reactive mentality that both I and Mike became used to. =
George,<BR>I would=20
  bet that you have been in our shoes at one time. You know, where =
it<BR>is=20
  safer to dive by yourself than with the people on the boat? </DIV>
  <DIV>Have a great day &<BR>Good=20
Diving,<BR>Bye,<BR>George<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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