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Subject: RE: [Cavers] Aloha to the Group
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:12:04 -1000
From: Dave Sams <dsams@al*.co*>
To: "Cavers List" <cavers@ca*.co*>
cc: "Techdiver List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Well well,

So you infest this list also George?

Actually I was considering unsubing from Techdiver because of your 
unmitigated bile and bullshit. Silly me, I subscribed to Techdiver (and 
now Cavers) in the hopes of 1) listening in to some discussions on 
equipment, technique, and locations; and 2) maybe finding a few possible 
dive partners.

Instead about all I've been exposed to is your ranting paranoia. So let's 
set the record straight, right now, so there are no mistakes:

First, I'm not the most experienced or best cave diver (or OW diver) in 
the world. Probably not the smartest either, but I am willing to learn 
and put out the effort required to improve my skills and knowledge.

Second, I too share many of your criticisms of the dive industry and 
believe GUE to be a breath of fresh air.

Third, I don't hate you and am not your enemy (as you are so fond of 
describing anyone who merely crosses your path, much less has the 
temerity to disagree with you). Rather, I'm simply tired of your bullshit.

For someone with your record of accomplishments I would have expected so 
much, well, more! However, instead of using the internet to disseminate 
your ideas, what we get is your contempt. When you do provide some 
information, you dole it out grudgingly, mere bits at a time -- mixed 
liberally with expletives. Thus, as best I can see, you are your own 
worst enemy. If people dislike you it's because of your unwarranted slurs 
and character assassinations and mindless need to dominate and "win" 
every discussion.

So, using small words I know you'll understand, fuck off George.
 
Dave


>George replied [to the Cavers list]:

>"full" cave? Very impressive. When you say "been diving since '72", you need
>to add "and still don't have a fucking clue". I will look forward to seeing
>some of you mindless bullshit on here.


>>Dave wrote [to the Cavers list]:

>>Aloha to the group from rainy (last two weeks or so) Kaneohe, Hawaii. New
>>subscriber to list -- used to live in heaven (Crystal River, Florida),
>>but now just live in Paradise. Damn it's a tough life.

>>Anyway, diving since '72 -- full cave and DM.

>>Anyone diving the Texas Hillcountry/Edwards Aquifer area?

>>Dave
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