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From: JDisler401@ao*.co*
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:25:47 EST
Subject: Re: Helmets for cave diving. What's the deal?
To: trey@ne*.co*, scoff_cavedivinggroup@ho*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com

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I understand now, helmets do not work for any type caving.
Thanks for the clarification

Regards JD

In a message dated 01/22/2002 5:29:26 AM Central Standard Time, 
girvine@be*.ne* writes:
    
   Look, moron, all you care about is your little dry caving weenie helmet. 
You let all 
> else that makes any sense go by the wayside for that precious little helmet. 
> That makes you a total idiot, just like every other stroke who sees only 
> one facet and lets all else go in order to satisfy that obsession. You not 
> only know NOTHING about cave diving, you just don't get the importance of 
> doing things in a cohesive and consistent fashion. 
>  
> The most important aspect of the dive light is the signaling capability. 
> You don't get that, and in fact you spend a great deal of argument telling 
> how helmeted lights somehow work. They do not. They do not in dry cave, 
> they do not underwater.
>  
> You have no business getting on a diving list and spewing crap in order to 
> satisfy you one little phobia ( the helmet). If you think you have to have 
> that helmet, than figure out a way to bring it to the dry cave along with 
> the climbing gear for which it might be necessary without sacrificing every 
> part of the best system ever developed,. and stop being a drooling idiot 
> about it in public. Your arguments are worst than the Brits. At least they 
> admit they don't give a flying fuck about buddies or anyone else.
>  
> You are just a dangerous idiot, and again, the kind of stroke that Rule 
> Number One is designed to avoid. Your thinking is what I hate in this 
> sport. Helmets have no place in cave diving.
> 



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<BR>I understand now, helmets do not work for any type caving.
<BR>Thanks for the clarification
<BR>
<BR>Regards JD
<BR>
<BR>In a message dated 01/22/2002 5:29:26 AM Central Standard Time,
girvine@be*.ne* writes:
<BR>    
<BR>   </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Look, moron, all you care about is
your little dry caving weenie helmet. You let all </FONT><FONT 
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<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px
solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">else that makes
any sense go by the wayside for that precious little helmet. That makes you a
total idiot, just like every other stroke who sees only one facet and lets all
else go in order to satisfy that obsession. You not only know NOTHING about
cave diving, you just don't get the importance of doing things in a cohesive
and consistent fashion. </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR> 
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">The most important aspect of the dive light is the
signaling capability. You don't get that, and in fact you spend a great deal of
argument telling how helmeted lights somehow work. They do not. They do not in
dry cave, they do not underwater.</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR> 
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">You have no business getting on a diving list and spewing
crap in order to satisfy you one little phobia ( the helmet). If you think you
have to have that helmet, than figure out a way to bring it to the dry cave
along with the climbing gear for which it might be necessary without
sacrificing every part of the best system ever developed,. and stop being a
drooling idiot about it in public. Your arguments are worst than the Brits. At
least they admit they don't give a flying fuck about buddies or anyone
else.</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial"
LANG="0">
<BR> 
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">You are just a dangerous idiot, and again, the kind of
stroke that Rule Number One is designed to avoid. Your thinking is what I hate
in this sport. Helmets have no place in cave diving.</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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