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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:36:21 -0600
From: Chuck Noe <chucknoe@ca*.co*>
To: Richard Lundgren <rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*>
CC: quest@gu*.co*, trey@ne*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
     Houston Cave Divers
Subject: Re: DIR Fatalities
I don't judge my self-worth on the "size of my dives".

I do judge myself on the integrity of my behavior.

It's a sad thing that you don't feel this way.

George wants to call me names while I simply state the facts about Jonathan's
death.

Read this carefully: "this has NOTHING to do with the WKPP".

All we are concerned about it George's blatant disregard for the facts, and his
ridiculous tendency to lie about anything that threatens his huge ego.

I never discounted the accomplishments of the WKPP. I encourage the team to keep

up the good work.

Chuck

Richard Lundgren wrote:

> I have a real hard time understanding what the fuck you guys are up to. Do
> you make diving safer, more exiting or productive by trying to make Trey
> look bad? You manage quite well to make fools and asholes of your self, that
> I must admit, good work.
>
> When you have anything, and I mean anything to come up with in regards to
> diving, safety and track record I will be the first to listen. You were
> amusing at best, now you bore the hell out of us. Take a good look at your
> own diving and life, you might find the reason why you are such a fucking
> bunch of loosers.
>
> You cant compare your self with the dives done by the Wkpp so I guess you
> are trying to discredit the most succesfull organisation ever by bad
> mouthing it and spreading lies. It will not work, you lose and you are the
> one who looks like clowns spanking their monkies at the keyboard writing no
> brainers....
>
> take care,
> Richard Lundgren
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Noe" <chucknoe@ca*.co*>
> To: <quest@gu*.co*>; <trey@ne*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Cc: "Houston Cave Divers" <HoustonCaveDivers@ca*.co*>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:58 AM
> Subject: RE: DIR Fatalities
>
> > It appears that George is in a full speed retreat.
> >
> > George originally wrote:
> >
> > "He did not have helium in the cylinder"
> >
> > Today George changed his story to:
> >
> > "I seriously doubt that Gol really had pure helium in his bottle"
> >
> > George also originally wrote:
> >
> > "it immediately killed him of a massive brain hemorrhage"
> >
> > Today George changed his story to:
> >
> > ""I really do not care what killed him....it makes no difference"
> >
> > George also originally said:
> >
> > "The bottle had a label on it marked 500psi He, not 100% Helium"
> >
> > Today George changed his story to:
> >
> > "I knew about the bottle saying "100 helium"
> > (Note: the label actually DID say 100% He / 500 psi)<g>
> >
> > Furthermore, in George's latest post these statements were made:
> >
> > "and I took him off my gas diving roster"
> > (In light of this statement I find it odd that Jonathan is still listed
> > on the team roster as a Mix Team Member.)
> >
> > "I figured he just wrote helium when he meant oxygen"
> > (And since when do rely on George's psychic powers?)
> >
> > "Bottom line is this is not my problem, not my accident, not a WKPP
> > dive, not a WKPP dive site"
> > (And this is the point which I've been hammering him for all along.
> > EVERYONE is glad you finally GOT IT!)
> >
> > And in light of George's statement that "he clearly had total disregard
> > for my standards and blew them off", it becomes obvious that George
> > never really knew Jonathan at all.
> >
> > Bottom line is, Jonathan made a huge mistake and died because of it.
> > This wasn't George's fault and I can't believe that he feels the need to
> > cover up the truth behind it. There is no need to be defensive. This was
> > never an attack on George personally; only on his lies.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
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