Thank you George for finally ending your campaign to hide the facts about
Jonathan's accident.

You can say anything you like about me. I have chosen not to make this a
personal attack on you all along. All I care about is that your warped view of
Jonathan's death be rebutted.

Chuck

Trey wrote:

> Chuck, by the "integrity" of your behavior are you referring to things like
> your getting knee walking drunk while we were in Merida conducting dives
> every day? Do you call putting the whole mission at risk by your public
> shitfaced, kneewalking drunkenness in a foreign country "integrity"? How
> about when Werner tired to dive with you and you displayed real "integrity"
> by sucking your stage bottle well past turn and never signaling your buddies
> that you needed to drop the bottle and put their lives at risk? Werner told
> me to ax you after that dive. Trout kept keeping you alive with me until
> your "integrity" did you in.
>
> You are nothing but a living example of a complete stroke.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Noe [mailto:chucknoe@ca*.co*]
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:36 PM
> To: Richard Lundgren
> Cc: quest@gu*.co*; trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; Houston Cave
> Divers
> Subject: Re: DIR Fatalities
>
> I don't judge my self-worth on the "size of my dives".
>
> I do judge myself on the integrity of my behavior.
>
> It's a sad thing that you don't feel this way.
>
> George wants to call me names while I simply state the facts about
> Jonathan's
> death.
>
> Read this carefully: "this has NOTHING to do with the WKPP".
>
> All we are concerned about it George's blatant disregard for the facts, and
> his
> ridiculous tendency to lie about anything that threatens his huge ego.
>
> I never discounted the accomplishments of the WKPP. I encourage the team to
> keep
>
> up the good work.
>
> Chuck
>
> Richard Lundgren wrote:
>
> > I have a real hard time understanding what the fuck you guys are up to. Do
> > you make diving safer, more exiting or productive by trying to make Trey
> > look bad? You manage quite well to make fools and asholes of your self,
> that
> > I must admit, good work.
> >
> > When you have anything, and I mean anything to come up with in regards to
> > diving, safety and track record I will be the first to listen. You were
> > amusing at best, now you bore the hell out of us. Take a good look at your
> > own diving and life, you might find the reason why you are such a fucking
> > bunch of loosers.
> >
> > You cant compare your self with the dives done by the Wkpp so I guess you
> > are trying to discredit the most succesfull organisation ever by bad
> > mouthing it and spreading lies. It will not work, you lose and you are the
> > one who looks like clowns spanking their monkies at the keyboard writing
> no
> > brainers....
> >
> > take care,
> > Richard Lundgren
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chuck Noe" <chucknoe@ca*.co*>
> > To: <quest@gu*.co*>; <trey@ne*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Cc: "Houston Cave Divers" <HoustonCaveDivers@ca*.co*>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:58 AM
> > Subject: RE: DIR Fatalities
> >
> > > It appears that George is in a full speed retreat.
> > >
> > > George originally wrote:
> > >
> > > "He did not have helium in the cylinder"
> > >
> > > Today George changed his story to:
> > >
> > > "I seriously doubt that Gol really had pure helium in his bottle"
> > >
> > > George also originally wrote:
> > >
> > > "it immediately killed him of a massive brain hemorrhage"
> > >
> > > Today George changed his story to:
> > >
> > > ""I really do not care what killed him....it makes no difference"
> > >
> > > George also originally said:
> > >
> > > "The bottle had a label on it marked 500psi He, not 100% Helium"
> > >
> > > Today George changed his story to:
> > >
> > > "I knew about the bottle saying "100 helium"
> > > (Note: the label actually DID say 100% He / 500 psi)<g>
> > >
> > > Furthermore, in George's latest post these statements were made:
> > >
> > > "and I took him off my gas diving roster"
> > > (In light of this statement I find it odd that Jonathan is still listed
> > > on the team roster as a Mix Team Member.)
> > >
> > > "I figured he just wrote helium when he meant oxygen"
> > > (And since when do rely on George's psychic powers?)
> > >
> > > "Bottom line is this is not my problem, not my accident, not a WKPP
> > > dive, not a WKPP dive site"
> > > (And this is the point which I've been hammering him for all along.
> > > EVERYONE is glad you finally GOT IT!)
> > >
> > > And in light of George's statement that "he clearly had total disregard
> > > for my standards and blew them off", it becomes obvious that George
> > > never really knew Jonathan at all.
> > >
> > > Bottom line is, Jonathan made a huge mistake and died because of it.
> > > This wasn't George's fault and I can't believe that he feels the need to
> > > cover up the truth behind it. There is no need to be defensive. This was
> > > never an attack on George personally; only on his lies.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
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