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Preston, Black is right. I don't care if he does not like me, but he is essentially correct. See my post to chuck noe as to why he is right. -----Original Message----- From: Preston Hobbie [mailto:hphobbie@at*.ne*] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:23 PM To: Aquanaut Mail Subject: RE: DIR Fatalities I am impressed at George's tolerance of MJB on this one ... you on Prozac, or in the holiday spirit? BTW, I truly appreciate the thoughtful and reasoned responses on the helium discussion recently. I have learned alot, and have new things to look up. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:45 PM To: Michael J. Black; Aquanaut Mail Subject: RE: DIR Fatalities Mike, let's clarify: Berman was not DIR or WKPP and he died proving it (solo)- he had no interest in doing things my way. Bobby died breaking two DIR rules ( number one and failing to mark his bottles) on a non WKPP dive ( obviously or he would not have been doing either). Rob jumped in after his mask that fell overboard with no gas in his tanks, or very little and died. JJ had withheld certification on him for cavern because his breathing rate was not yet low enough ( new diver - good guy but needed more diving time) and he was not WKPP,but did help us with medical issues as he was a Navy doctor and aviator. Gol was benched for medical problems when he got a spinal and brain infection for which he was hospitalized in critical condition with brain swelling and seizures, was released on medication and told not to dive, and did anyway and it immediately killed him of a massive brain hemorrhage . He was not diving WKPP or with any WKPP people obviously or he would not have been in the water. Sherwood schile is an even better story. He got killed diving with Gavin and Lamar English before I took over running the WKPP. I was scheduled to dive, but refused to dive with Schile and told Gavin that he has no business diving for reasons I don't need to mention here, and I told Lamer to "phone me after the dive and tell me where you killed him". The phone rang at 10:00 and Lamar said, "In the restriction". I took over the Project a week later, and when I say somebody will not dive, they will not dive. I installed DIR when I took over, before that it was whatever you wanted to do. Track record is a little different under me and it is interesting that the accidents that do occur out there with people we know and who know us are all violations of common sense and DIR, would you not agree, Dr. B? Mike, we are about doing things so as not to have accidents. That is the point of my DIR from DAY ONE. -----Original Message----- From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:03 PM To: Aquanaut Mail Subject: DIR Fatalities OK George, you asked for a list of the DIR dead, here is what I've heard (but I am sure there are others). Even if only one or two names are correct, it's a pretty high percentage considering how few DIR divers there are: Bobby McGuirre Rob Wolov Jonathan Gol Sherwood Schile Steve Berman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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