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Nicolai; I am not certain of what your question is, so my answer is to what I understand what you are asking me: I don't have really one "local" dive shop. One of my friends and dive buddies (who is also the Technical Director of Hydronautics) owns a shop in Brooklyn, he is also a Halcyon dealer. Another friend and dive buddy owns a shop in Manhattan, who was PADI, is now SSI and already GUE Tech1 and Cave1 certified, who will be doing his Cave 2 in a few weeks). I organized with the latter a DIR Fundamentals class with MHK and Andrew Georgitsis. Despite that, I am making point of not having ONE dive shop, for the simple fact that I am an independent diver who thinks for himself and making my own decisions. But if I am getting good advise regarding a gear item, I get it from the person who advised me well, meaning I don't obtain the advise from one person and buy it from another one cheaper. I am spending enough money at different shops to keep them all happy and they all accept my way of thinking. Now, I think that the dive shop has to have one important feature: NOT anti-DIR, at least! Hope that helps. Udo "Nicolai M. Tousaint" wrote: > How you will want your local dive shop to be ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Udo Rotmistrenko <udo@hy*.or*> > To: <quest@gu*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:28 PM > Subject: Re: Full DIR Center, was RE: Re: [cavers] RE: GI and SS to Merge > > > Hello Nicolai; > > > > Forgive me for joining this discussion at such a late point. > > > > I don't know you, or the operation you are running and maybe putting my > foot > > into my mouth. However, as the president and CEO of a very successfull > Wall > > Street firm (I built this company out of nothing), I am always very > interested > > in other entrepreneurs efforts. > > > > Reading your post (and trying myself to DIR as much as I can, and being a > Scuba > > diver since 1975), I, on one hand, admire your inner convictions and > straight > > forwardness, on the other hand, I think that you are thinking as a > committed > > diver and not like a businessman. > > > > Do you think that you can survive on the long run by catering to the small > > fringe community of DIR divers? Do you expect to have during your "tourist > > season" every day 20 to 60 DIR divers going out from your shop? Do you > really > > believe that all the (500?) DIR divers worldwide can't wait to come to > Akumal to > > dive with you? > > > > Smarter would be to offer GUE's DIR Fundamentals to "certified strokes" > and > > Tech/Cave to people who did already their Fundamentals classes. You will > have, > > maybe, (may own estimate, based on guessing) 5 to 10% DIR guys coming to > you... > > 90 - 95% are divers who never ever heard about DIR (I heard/read the first > time > > on rec.scuba about it). Many of them dive only for fun and recreational, > with no > > aspiration to technical diving. But those guys are the ones who will > finance > > your business. > > > > While those people are there, you can help them to be aware of the DIR > concept > > and even the application to the Fundamentals and providing twice a week > (or > > three times) a DIR Demo... and go from there. > > > > You can also select the "best" stroke gear (least clutter), do not offer > those > > little trinkets (retractable console clips and crap), instead you show > those > > people how to do it right. > > > > This is a much smarter way IMHO, of DOING IT RIGHT, politically and > business > > wise. Your impact will be much bigger on the dive community. > > > > Oh, I think that if you dive with students (even DIR) you are diving with > > strokes too..., unless you are not teaching... > > > > Best regards > > > > Udo > > > > P.S.: Although I am a NE coldwater/icewater diver, I wouldn't mind to come > down > > with my wife (turning DIR, she just got certified), because she prefers > warm > > water diving. Guess I will see you sometimes. > > > > "Nicolai M. Tousaint" wrote: > > > > > So maybe they can teach stroke diving too, as long as they teach you a > good > > > class ? > > > let them dive with that gear in the same boat , as long you are not > there ? > > > > > > If you are really committed to the DIR philosophy, you are all the way, > > > > > > Actually GUE and Halcyon are sacrificing profit for quality training and > > > equipment, and you will not find stroke gear that sells there or a cheap > > > class with many c-cards included, when will the dive shops committed to > DIR > > > diving as well ? > > > > > > By the way, if you come diving with us in the new Akumal DIR Center, in > the > > > Yucatan wonderland, expect no stroke gear for sell rent or use in the > > > premises, as well ONLY custom DIR diving programs will be available ( to > all > > > levels ), No stroke divers and gear will be welcome, as I won´t dive > with > > > them, I will teach exclusively GUE training only for the serious diver > > > wanting to put the required effort, we are not trying to pretend we are > > > committed, as we really believed that the DIR system is the safest way > to > > > go. > > > > > > best > > > Nicolai M. 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