Scott,

Never been at Brownies, have you?
[they even sell tankboots!!!!!!!! ;-) ]
If there is ONE shop that's supposed to DIR, it's them. Two GUE-instructors
behind the counter, several GUE courses a year given. And EVEN THEY have to
sell strokegear to keep paying the bills.
DIR won't feed you, cashflow does!
By selling the shit and making money out of it, they can develop new
DIR-gear and keep our show on the road.
They only can ADVISE the people that come in, to DIR.

If you go to a hardwarestore for a tool, and they only sell a brand you have
never heard of, and looks 'strangely differend' from the tool you learned to
work with in class, what would YOU do? I would go to another shop that gives
me a choice. I MIGHT buy the 'strange' looking tool, but only after I had a
chance to listen to the salesrep. and compare.

Gertjan
[the Netherlands]

> Hi Jim,
>
> I am sending this message to three separate lists as your message, to
which I
> am replying, was sent to these three same lists.
>
> Jim, I guess that your message explains a major portion of the difference
> between you and me.  You see I could never supply gear to anyone that I
> thought was not the proper gear for that person to be using in any given
> situation.
>
> Your boast of << I sold tons of bullshit stroke gear ... <snip> ...
folks
> have got to sell stuff to pay the bills. You going to make my house
payment
> while I sit on my ass and be a purist? >> , and the rest of your message
> indicating to me that you knew that what you were selling was not
acceptable
> gear at the time you sold it, is so repulsive that I find it hard to
contain
> my disgust for your actions.  It is people like you, using the excuse that
"I
> need to make a living," that are a detriment to the scuba diving industry
and
> IMHO, just possibly the cause of various scuba accidents.  "Farm animal
> stupid" is too kind for you because you knew that what you were doing was
> wrong at the time you were doing it.  Make a living some other way, but
not
> by knowingly placing divers in potentially unacceptably dangerous
> predicaments.
>
> To me, there is no reason to ever supply a diver with unacceptable
equipment
> for him or her to use in any given situation.  Either supply acceptable
gear
> or inform the diver that the proposed diving cannot be accomplished safely
> with the other gear that you have presently for sale.  And then offer to
help
> get (special order, alternate supplier, more expensive initially but
second
> hand, etc.) alternative acceptable gear to satisfy the diver's needs.
This
> is known as professionalism and any other course of action is, IMHO
grossly
> irresponsible if not downright criminal.
>
> I am certainly glad that your message is in the past tense << ... until
a
> couple weeks ago, I ran a dive shop in Atlanta. >>, as I'd rather not need
to
> think about your still supplying unacceptable equipment to divers.
>
> And you profess to support the DIR philosophy???  Is that "use acceptable
> equipment unless that doesn't sell and then Jim Holcomb can make a little
> more money by having someone buy unacceptable equipment"?  Just whom do
you
> think you're kidding?
>
> But then, this is just one instructor's opinion.
>
> Take care and dive safe,       Scott
>
> Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints
and
> scramble up out of the pit.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/7/01 7:59:18 PM, jimholcomb@x-*.co* writes:
>
> << Well, in a fucked up kind of way, I agree. But wouldn't it be a whole
lot
> more hypocritical to sell a stroke "stroke" gear.  Up until a couple weeks
> ago, I ran a dive shop in Atlanta.  I sold tons of bullshit stroke gear to
> folks.  If you got to sell something to somebody to pay the bills it would
> probably be better to sell them gear oriented toward the DIR philosophy as
> opposed to some of that shit I sold.  My point being, folks have got to
> sell stuff to pay the bills. You going to make my house payment while I
sit
> on my ass and be a purist? Better to sell DIR stuff to strokes than stroke
> shit to strokes. Make any sense?????
>
> Jim Holcomb >>
>
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