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From: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>
To: "Charles Roth" <divr555@ho*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <croth123@ao*.co*>
Subject: Re: UNESCO
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:35:29 -0700
Well put.  I agree.

Joe Citelli

----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Roth <divr555@ho*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <croth123@ao*.co*>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:22 AM
Subject: RE: UNESCO


> THERE'S GOLD IN THEM THA'RE HILLS!
>
> Okay, I've been reading this thread since Mike Barnette started it about a
> week ago. I've got some questions and comments that keep coming to mind
> every time I read this thread. Please understand that these are my
> unqualified opinions as I have no formal and little informal training in
> archeology (underwater or otherwise)or in law.
>
> First off, it seems that no one was all that interested in "cultural
> heritage" until big treasure finds occured. Several times in the past,
> governmental agencies have tried, sometimes successfully and sometimes
not,
> to essentially steal the finds of treasure hunters, salvors, etc. Case in
> point is when Mel Fisher found the Atocha and the state came in and tried
to
> confiscate all his finds. Now,in reading Article 18, it looks to me like
the
> state will be able to walk into Mel's museums (and anyone elses)and
> confiscate everything in them.
> Countries that have had no interest in salvaging wrecks  or preserving
them
> have been eagerly jumping on this bandwagon. It appears that they see a
> windfall of gold, precious jewels and other items of value just sitting
off
> their shores. Now they don't want to risk their own money in finding or
> salvaging these wrecks, but they certainly don't want some private
> individual(s)doing so either. Case in point, Spain has never attempted to
> search for, or in recent years, salvage any of their treasure ships lost
in
> the 15th through 18th century but they certainly were quick to step up and
> claim ownership when someone else did.  Several African nations, always in
> want of easy money, have also eagerly supported this Convention. They
looked
> around and found that archeologists have been complaining about this for
> years. It was convenient for countries to take up the archeologists
"purist"
> view that there should NEVER be any commercial venture attached to an
> excavation be it underwater or on land. They are using this archeology
bent
> to legitimize their attempts to protect their pots of gold and UNESCO as
> their instrument to do so.
> Please don't get me wrong. I do believe in protecting and displaying our
> heritage.  I would have never been able to go to the Mariner's Museum in
> Newport News and see pieces of the Monitor otherwise. I think that given
the
> opportunity, many divers (including myself) would jump at the chance to
> participate in an underwater excavation. To use our diving skills and our
> interest in wrecks to do something productive. Unfortunately, most
> individuals and institutions seem to balk at the price tag of underwater
> excavation therefor it doesn't get funded and the wrecks slowly
deteriorate
> away.
> Again, this is my humble, uneducated opinon about this.
>
> Chuck R
>
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