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--=====================_12649037==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:23 PM 24/10/2001 , dmdalton wrote: >Aldo, > >Seems to me that you are the one calling names and >insulting others. Not Bob. > >You may want to pick up on one of those courses that >you so kindly recommended to Bob, I would suggest >"English as a Second Language". The proper insult >would have been "blue collar American". Please note >America and American gets a capital "A" not a small >"a" just like the first letter of the name of every >country, even yours. > >You might wish to convey your self-righteous >judgmental attitude and thoughts to one of our groups >of "blue collar Americans" AKA our Firemen and >Policemen who gave their lives responding to the >9/11/01 terrorist attack. Just because you, in your >country, wherever that might be, may have a class or >cast system, of which you seem to feel you are at the >top of the ladder, please note we do not here. > >I hope you were able to tune in to the benefit concert >in NYC about a week ago. If not I'll pass on the >highlight of the evening, a quote directed to Bin >Laden which I now direct to you. "In the fine >tradition of Irishmen everywhere, I say to you, YOU >CAN KISS MY ROYAL IRISH (AMERICAN) ASS!" Approximate >quote by a NYC blue collar worker (AKA Fireman) who >lost his brother, another NYC Blue Collar Worker (AKA >Fireman) in the 9/11/01 terrorist attack. While you're on the subject of terrorism, I'm pleased to see that Irish Americans, having had a taste of it up close, have decided to stop funding the IRA, and so a long episode of terrorism across the water has a good chance of being brought to a close. >Aldo a wreck is called a wreck because it is a wreck! >In our country when we have two cars that wreck we >haul them off to a junk yard and sell the scrap. >Since we have a rich cultural heritage we do not feel >it necessary to try to make some sort of cultural >significance out of each car wreck we have. The same >thing would happen to ship wrecks if they were 1) not >hidden from sight and 2) easier to salvage. So get >off the cultural heritage crap. What I and most >divers I know dive has no cultural significance. > >I really love it when UNESCO has a bunch of reps from >a bunch of do nothing counties that can't even support >themselves without American aid and funding, Among the lowest, per capita, in the developed world. Excluding, of course, military hardware. >get >together and try to decide how the world should be >governed. I'll tell you what Aldo, when you have a >country that betters the USA, THEN come back and talk >to me about your "better way" and "one world >government". > >Until then as I said before: > >YOU CAN KISS MY ROYAL IRISH AMERICAN ASS > (in Macy's Front Window) You guys are a riot. rgds billyw >Dave Dalton > >--- "Aldo Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*> wrote: > > Mr. Decker, you do not only ignore what UNESCO > > has done for > > cultural heritage and the biosphere worldwide but > > dont have the > > slightest idea on fish population dynamics. You > > are the typical > > "blue collar america" who insult, kick around and > > shout due lack > > of arguments, education and respect for others. > > While I cannot > > culturize you through an electronic forum, I urge > > you to go to > > some evening courses at the university, read about > > what you like > > to discuss and watch up your mouth. > > > > Without a track record in scientific research > > or diving, you > > hardly have a place to argue here. > > > > ---- > > aldo.solari@ho*.se* (fisheries biologist) > > Home page, www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris > > ---- > > > > RDecker388@ao*.co* > > > > Rac> In a message dated 10/23/01 10:26:03 PM Eastern > > Daylight Time, > > Rac> aldo.solari@ho*.se* writes: > > > > > > >> . Wreckers should study basics in law, > > cultural > > >> heritage, social anthropology and archeology. > > Nobody will get > > >> killed by going to some seminars, reading some > > material and doing > > >> some field work with specialized instructors. > > >> > > > > Rac> Tell you what, Chief, I studied archeology, the > > underwater variety to be > > Rac> specific, while in college. I even gave a bit > > of thought to doing degree > > Rac> work in anthropology. I know several > > professional archeologists well, > > Rac> particularly those specializing in submerged > > cultureal materials. Wanna hear > > Rac> my "enlighted and educated" view of UNESCO? It > > stinks. It will do nothing > > Rac> to protect anything worth protecting, will > > result in a "black market" of > > Rac> wreck diving and fishing resulting in the > > location of potentially culturally > > Rac> significant sites going unreported and has the > > potential to destroy the > > Rac> recreational diving industry. > > > > Rac> You use passionate, insulting commentary such > > as "terrorists," "wreck > > Rac> grubbers" and "cutural resource killers," yet > > likely have never been involved > > Rac> in an underwater archeological project > > yourself. You come off as someone > > Rac> lost in the hallowed halls of academia with > > little or no understading of the > > Rac> real world and how it works. > > > > Rac> The fact is, the majority of the wreck divers I > > know are fairly conciencious > > Rac> people. They aren't about to strip artifacts > > off of any sites that are > > Rac> truely significant cultural resources. The > > vast majority of worthwhile sites > > Rac> that have been identified have been found and > > reported by sport divers, not > > Rac> professional archeologists. In contrast, > > archeologist often are the worst > > Rac> hackers/destroyers/treasure hunters that exist. > > Take a trip to Port Royal > > Rac> Jamaica and see the rotting, rusting, crumbling > > artifacts left to waste away > > Rac> by archeologists due largely to a lack of > > funding. These items are of some > > Rac> significance and obviously would be better > > cared for if in the hands of a few > > Rac> "wreck gutters," who would conserve and display > > them, instead of in the hands > > Rac> of professional archeologists! > > > > Rac> Here's a thought. You want to protect all the > > wrecks laying in your > > Rac> country's sovereign waters, go for it. > > However, if you want to muddle in the > > Rac> territorial waters of other countries, thanks > > but no thanks, we'll keep care > > Rac> of our own. > > > > Rac> (I'm not even going to touch the nonsense you > > put forward concerning fishing, > > Rac> degradation of fish stocks, etc. A six year > > old with a kindergarten > > Rac> education would recognize that for a crock of > > bull). > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. >http://personals.yahoo.com >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. --=====================_12649037==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> At 10:23 PM 24/10/2001 , dmdalton wrote:<br> <blockquote type=cite cite>Aldo,<br> <br> Seems to me that you are the one calling names and<br> insulting others. Not Bob.<br> <br> You may want to pick up on one of those courses that<br> you so kindly recommended to Bob, I would suggest<br> "English as a Second Language". The proper insult<br> would have been "blue collar American". Please note<br> America and American gets a capital "A" not a small<br> "a" just like the first letter of the name of every<br> country, even yours.<br> <br> You might wish to convey your self-righteous<br> judgmental attitude and thoughts to one of our groups<br> of "blue collar Americans" AKA our Firemen and<br> Policemen who gave their lives responding to the<br> 9/11/01 terrorist attack. Just because you, in your<br> country, wherever that might be, may have a class or<br> cast system, of which you seem to feel you are at the<br> top of the ladder, please note we do not here.<br> <br> I hope you were able to tune in to the benefit concert<br> in NYC about a week ago. If not I'll pass on the<br> highlight of the evening, a quote directed to Bin<br> Laden which I now direct to you. "In the fine<br> tradition of Irishmen everywhere, I say to you, YOU<br> CAN KISS MY ROYAL IRISH (AMERICAN) ASS!" Approximate<br> quote by a NYC blue collar worker (AKA Fireman) who<br> lost his brother, another NYC Blue Collar Worker (AKA<br> Fireman) in the 9/11/01 terrorist attack. </blockquote><br> While you're on the subject of terrorism, I'm pleased to <br> see that Irish Americans, having had a taste of it up close, <br> have decided to stop funding the IRA, and so a long episode of <br> terrorism across the water has a good chance of being brought <br> to a close.<br> <br> <blockquote type=cite cite>Aldo a wreck is called a wreck because it is a wreck! <br> In our country when we have two cars that wreck we<br> haul them off to a junk yard and sell the scrap. <br> Since we have a rich cultural heritage we do not feel<br> it necessary to try to make some sort of cultural<br> significance out of each car wreck we have. The same<br> thing would happen to ship wrecks if they were 1) not<br> hidden from sight and 2) easier to salvage. So get<br> off the cultural heritage crap. What I and most<br> divers I know dive has no cultural significance. <br> <br> I really love it when UNESCO has a bunch of reps from<br> a bunch of do nothing counties that can't even support<br> themselves without American aid and funding, </blockquote><br> Among the lowest, per capita, in the developed world.<br> Excluding, of course, military hardware.<br> <br> <blockquote type=cite cite>get<br> together and try to decide how the world should be<br> governed. I'll tell you what Aldo, when you have a<br> country that betters the USA, THEN come back and talk<br> to me about your "better way" and "one world<br> government".<br> <br> Until then as I said before:<br> <br> YOU CAN KISS MY ROYAL IRISH AMERICAN ASS<br> (in Macy's Front Window)</blockquote><br> You guys are a riot.<br> <br> rgds billyw<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <blockquote type=cite cite>Dave Dalton<br> <br> --- "Aldo Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*> wrote:<br> > Mr. Decker, you do not only ignore what UNESCO<br> > has done for<br> > cultural heritage and the biosphere worldwide but<br> > dont have the<br> > slightest idea on fish population dynamics. You<br> > are the typical<br> > "blue collar america" who insult, kick around and<br> > shout due lack<br> > of arguments, education and respect for others.<br> > While I cannot<br> > culturize you through an electronic forum, I urge<br> > you to go to<br> > some evening courses at the university, read about<br> > what you like<br> > to discuss and watch up your mouth.<br> > <br> > Without a track record in scientific research<br> > or diving, you<br> > hardly have a place to argue here.<br> > <br> > ----<br> > aldo.solari@ho*.se* (fisheries biologist)<br> > Home page, <a href="http://www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris" eudora="autourl">www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris</a><br> > ----<br> > <br> > RDecker388@ao*.co*<br> > <br> > Rac> In a message dated 10/23/01 10:26:03 PM Eastern<br> > Daylight Time, <br> > Rac> aldo.solari@ho*.se* writes:<br> > <br> > <br> > >> . Wreckers should study basics in law, <br> > cultural<br> > >> heritage, social anthropology and archeology.<br> > Nobody will get<br> > >> killed by going to some seminars, reading some<br> > material and doing<br> > >> some field work with specialized instructors.<br> > >> <br> > <br> > Rac> Tell you what, Chief, I studied archeology, the<br> > underwater variety to be <br> > Rac> specific, while in college. I even gave a bit<br> > of thought to doing degree <br> > Rac> work in anthropology. I know several<br> > professional archeologists well, <br> > Rac> particularly those specializing in submerged<br> > cultureal materials. Wanna hear <br> > Rac> my "enlighted and educated" view of UNESCO? It<br> > stinks. It will do nothing <br> > Rac> to protect anything worth protecting, will<br> > result in a "black market" of <br> > Rac> wreck diving and fishing resulting in the<br> > location of potentially culturally <br> > Rac> significant sites going unreported and has the<br> > potential to destroy the <br> > Rac> recreational diving industry.<br> > <br> > Rac> You use passionate, insulting commentary such<br> > as "terrorists," "wreck <br> > Rac> grubbers" and "cutural resource killers," yet<br> > likely have never been involved <br> > Rac> in an underwater archeological project<br> > yourself. You come off as someone <br> > Rac> lost in the hallowed halls of academia with<br> > little or no understading of the <br> > Rac> real world and how it works. <br> > <br> > Rac> The fact is, the majority of the wreck divers I<br> > know are fairly conciencious <br> > Rac> people. They aren't about to strip artifacts<br> > off of any sites that are <br> > Rac> truely significant cultural resources. The<br> > vast majority of worthwhile sites <br> > Rac> that have been identified have been found and<br> > reported by sport divers, not <br> > Rac> professional archeologists. In contrast,<br> > archeologist often are the worst <br> > Rac> hackers/destroyers/treasure hunters that exist.<br> > Take a trip to Port Royal <br> > Rac> Jamaica and see the rotting, rusting, crumbling<br> > artifacts left to waste away <br> > Rac> by archeologists due largely to a lack of<br> > funding. These items are of some <br> > Rac> significance and obviously would be better<br> > cared for if in the hands of a few <br> > Rac> "wreck gutters," who would conserve and display<br> > them, instead of in the hands <br> > Rac> of professional archeologists!<br> > <br> > Rac> Here's a thought. You want to protect all the<br> > wrecks laying in your <br> > Rac> country's sovereign waters, go for it. <br> > However, if you want to muddle in the <br> > Rac> territorial waters of other countries, thanks<br> > but no thanks, we'll keep care <br> > Rac> of our own.<br> > <br> > Rac> (I'm not even going to touch the nonsense you<br> > put forward concerning fishing, <br> > Rac> degradation of fish stocks, etc. A six year<br> > old with a kindergarten <br> > Rac> education would recognize that for a crock of<br> > bull).<br> > <br> > <br> <br> <br> __________________________________________________<br> Do You Yahoo!?<br> Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.<br> <a href="http://personals.yahoo.com/" eudora="autourl">http://personals.yahoo.com</a><br> --<br> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.<br> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.</blockquote></html> --=====================_12649037==_.ALT-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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