Aldo,

Seems to me that you are the one calling names and
insulting others. Not Bob.

You may want to pick up on one of those courses that
you so kindly recommended to Bob, I would suggest
"English as a Second Language".  The proper insult
would have been "blue collar American".  Please note
America and American gets a capital "A" not a small
"a" just like the first letter of the name of every
country, even yours.

You might wish to convey your self-righteous
judgmental attitude and thoughts to one of our groups
of "blue collar Americans" AKA our Firemen and
Policemen who gave their lives responding to the
9/11/01 terrorist attack.  Just because you, in your
country, wherever that might be, may have a class or
cast system, of which you seem to feel you are at the
top of the ladder, please note we do not here.

I hope you were able to tune in to the benefit concert
in NYC about a week ago.  If not I'll pass on the
highlight of the evening, a quote directed to Bin
Laden which I now direct to you.  "In the fine
tradition of Irishmen everywhere, I say to you, YOU
CAN KISS MY ROYAL IRISH (AMERICAN) ASS!" Approximate
quote by a NYC blue collar worker (AKA Fireman) who
lost his brother, another NYC Blue Collar Worker (AKA
Fireman) in the 9/11/01 terrorist attack.  

Aldo a wreck is called a wreck because it is a wreck! 
In our country when we have two cars that wreck we
haul them off to a junk yard and sell the scrap. 
Since we have a rich cultural heritage we do not feel
it necessary to try to make some sort of cultural
significance out of each car wreck we have.  The same
thing would happen to ship wrecks if they were 1) not
hidden from sight and 2) easier to salvage.  So get
off the cultural heritage crap.  What I and most
divers I know dive has no cultural significance. 

I really love it when UNESCO has a bunch of reps from
a bunch of do nothing counties that can't even support
themselves without American aid and funding, get
together and try to decide how the world should be
governed. I'll tell you what Aldo, when you have a
country that betters the USA, THEN come back and talk
to me about your "better way" and "one world
government".

Until then as I said before:

YOU CAN KISS MY ROYAL IRISH AMERICAN ASS
 (in Macy's Front Window)

Dave Dalton

--- "Aldo Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*> wrote:
> Mr.  Decker,  you  do  not  only  ignore what UNESCO
> has done for
> cultural  heritage  and the biosphere worldwide but
> dont have the
> slightest  idea  on fish population dynamics. You
> are the typical
> "blue  collar america" who insult, kick around and
> shout due lack
> of  arguments,  education  and respect for others.
> While I cannot
> culturize  you  through  an electronic forum, I urge
> you to go to
> some  evening courses at the university, read about
> what you like
> to discuss and watch up your mouth.
> 
> Without  a  track  record  in  scientific research
> or diving, you
> hardly have a place to argue here.
> 
> ----
> aldo.solari@ho*.se* (fisheries biologist)
> Home page, www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris
> ----
> 
> RDecker388@ao*.co*
> 
> Rac> In a message dated 10/23/01 10:26:03 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time, 
> Rac> aldo.solari@ho*.se* writes:
> 
> 
> >> .   Wreckers  should  study  basics  in  law, 
> cultural
> >> heritage,  social  anthropology  and  archeology.
> Nobody will get
> >> killed by going to some seminars, reading some
> material and doing
> >> some field work with specialized instructors.
> >> 
> 
> Rac> Tell you what, Chief, I studied archeology, the
> underwater variety to be 
> Rac> specific, while in college.  I even gave a bit
> of thought to doing degree 
> Rac> work in anthropology.  I know several
> professional archeologists well, 
> Rac> particularly those specializing in submerged
> cultureal materials. Wanna hear 
> Rac> my "enlighted and educated" view of UNESCO?  It
> stinks.  It will do nothing 
> Rac> to protect anything worth protecting, will
> result in a "black market" of 
> Rac> wreck diving and fishing resulting in the
> location of potentially culturally 
> Rac> significant sites going unreported and has the
> potential to destroy the 
> Rac> recreational diving industry.
> 
> Rac> You use passionate, insulting commentary such
> as "terrorists," "wreck 
> Rac> grubbers" and "cutural resource killers," yet
> likely have never been involved 
> Rac> in an underwater archeological project
> yourself.  You come off as someone 
> Rac> lost in the hallowed halls of academia with
> little or no understading of the 
> Rac> real world and how it works.  
> 
> Rac> The fact is, the majority of the wreck divers I
> know are fairly conciencious 
> Rac> people.  They aren't about to strip artifacts
> off of any sites that are 
> Rac> truely significant cultural resources.  The
> vast majority of worthwhile sites 
> Rac> that have been identified have been found and
> reported by sport divers, not 
> Rac> professional archeologists.  In contrast,
> archeologist often are the worst 
> Rac> hackers/destroyers/treasure hunters that exist.
>  Take a trip to Port Royal 
> Rac> Jamaica and see the rotting, rusting, crumbling
> artifacts left to waste away 
> Rac> by archeologists due largely to a lack of
> funding.  These items are of some 
> Rac> significance and obviously would be better
> cared for if in the hands of a few 
> Rac> "wreck gutters," who would conserve and display
> them, instead of in the hands 
> Rac> of professional archeologists!
> 
> Rac> Here's a thought.  You want to protect all the
> wrecks laying in your 
> Rac> country's sovereign waters, go for it. 
> However, if you want to muddle in the 
> Rac> territorial waters of other countries, thanks
> but no thanks, we'll keep care 
> Rac> of our own.
> 
> Rac> (I'm not even going to touch the nonsense you
> put forward concerning fishing, 
> Rac> degradation of fish stocks, etc.  A six year
> old with a kindergarten 
> Rac> education would recognize that for a crock of
> bull).
> 
> 


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