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To: "techdiver@inset.com"%5173.dnet@gte.com
Subject: RE: Trimix + Re: Hose wars
From: MSMAIL%"HeimannJ@WL* SCSD"%GTEC3.dnet@gt*.co*
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 13:18:47 -0500

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From: HeimannJ on Mon, Feb 15, 1993 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: Trimix + Re: Hose wars
To: techdiver

Reply to Jouni Polkko:

>Are trimix fills comercially available for sport divers anywhere ?
>Do trimix divers generally mix their gases themselves and how is
>that usually done ? I suppose, that easiest way is first to put helium
>into the tank and then fill it full with air. Or is the helium first
>enriched by O2 to get different O2/N2 relations ? 
>How soon should the mix be used after the mixing so that helium doesn't
>run away from the tank ? Or are ordinary valves and sealings enough
>helium proof that this isn't a problem ?

There are a few places in the eastern  US where mix is sold to certified sport
divers; these include Key West Divers in FL, Island Scuba Center in Freeport, NY
(home of Ed Betts and ANDI), and the Gas Station in Gloucester, NJ.  Commercial
gas supply houses will sometimes supply premix as well.  Most people seem to buy
gas in bulk, and pump it in their basements with a Haskel booster.

I should note that I am not trimix certified but am signed up for a course with
Randy Bohrer this month which may actually happen.  The way home mix seems to be
done, according to those who do it, is to compute the partial pressures of He
and O2 to be added to a tank for a particular mix, assuming that air is used to
top it off.  Next,  He is added to a tank until the right pressure is achieved. 
The tank is allowed to cool, and the pressure measured again, and He may be
added or vented.  Next, O2 is added by pressure, and the tank is rolled around
to facilitate mixing, again allowed to cool and rechecked.  At this stage, the
FO2 (and by computation, the FHe) can be checked with an O2 analyzer.  Finally,
air is added by pressure, the tank is mixed by rolling it, and it is allowed to
cool.  The FO2 is checked for the final mix, and O2, He, or air is added if
necessary to correct the mix.  The new book "Mixed Gas Diving" by Tom
Mount/Brett Gilliam/Randy Bohrer/John Crea describes the procedures in detail.

When I asked him about He leakage, Billy Deans assured me that he has done
experiments and found that it isn't significant.  

>Could somebody kindly send me the ISBN numbers of the Gilliam's et. al.
>books "Deep Diving: ..." and "Mixed Gas Diving" ? Are they worht of reading
>and can anyone recommend any other books about the subject ?

Aquacorps journal is a good source of info.  The "Deep Diving" and "Mixed Gas
Diving" books are pretty good, but I'm convinced that there is only a fixed
amount of technical diving text and photos that can exist in the world, since
the same articles and photos keep reappearing in all the books and magazines.  I
have both books at home and can get you the ISBN #s.

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