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To: "techdiver@inset.com"%5173.dnet@gte.com
Subject: Hose wars
From: MSMAIL%"HeimannJ@WL* SCSD"%GTEC3.dnet@gt*.co*
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 09:38:07 -0500

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From: HeimannJ on Mon, Feb 15, 1993 9:43 AM
Subject: Hose wars
To: techdiver

I'd like to raise what is often a topic of good natured bar-room dispute in
technical diving circles:  the placement of the long hose.

As do many wreck and cave divers, I use double (Genesis 100) tanks, a dual
outlet manifold and twin regulators, and a 7 ft. hose on one reg.  I use the
long hose reg to breath from, and hang the other from a loop around my neck
(Hogarthian method).  The problem, of course, is what to do with the extra 5 ft.
of the long hose.  

I have experimented with all the standard solutions:  wrap around neck, loop up
and down on side of right tank, or loop in a figure-8 below the manifold.  
Wrapping around the neck can be a little awkward, since I use a latex dry-hood
and the hose tends to catch on the latex.  Looping on the side of the tank is
problematic when using stage bottle, since I find that the primary reg. the
flops to the side where it is hard to retrieve.  I suppose one could fix this by
attaching the reg to the harness or something when using a stage.  

The most comfortable method I have found, and the one that reduces my profile to
a minimum, is the figure-8 loop beneath the manifold.  I have a few concerns
with this approach, however:

1) It requires me to use a hose swivel on my primary first stage, because of the
first stage design (Poseidon Odin).  I'm not sure I trust the swivel (two more
o-rings to blow!), and I worry that it cuts down on the Odin's otherwise
terrific performance.

2) It forces the hose into some tight loops, which may reduce hose life. 
Poseidon long hoses are over $100, so cutting down longevity of the hose is a
serious concern.  If anyone has been using this technique for a long time and
has had any experience with hose failure, please let me know.

3) It's hard to stow the hose again if you have to bail out your buddy.

Any comments or suggestions are welcome.

John

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