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Again my strong opinion is that ALL DCI Decompression IS GOOD, IN FACT THE MORE THE BETTER! I have a right to post my opinion as do you. This isn't Afghanistan and that was not a private response or intended to be. Thanks for the debate. -----Original Message----- From: "Isaac Callicrate"<icallicrate@ho*.co*> To: OEA51@go*.co*, wgrogan@dc*.ne* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Date: Tue Oct 02 05:55:17 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: [E-CAVERS] BIG Bull and Squeeze >Thanks for all the private response. It is nice to see that there are a lot >of educated professionals on this list that don't feel the need to >unnecessarily post argument when they drink to much Ripped Fuel in their >coffee. Unfortunately, I guess I need to clarify for one person. My issue >in posting about this last medical issue is about isn't proper treatment >table use, how big a Jumbo "D" in your DAN O2 kit is, how to use a >sphygmomanometer, how to detect a PFO with an EKG/ECG, and symptoms of >Middle Ear Oxygen Absorption Syndrome. Those are all valid discussions that >are appropriate. My point is that I never want to read someone less than >fully qualified, offering TREATMENT to a PATIENT that has a current diving >injury. If you don't know if you are qualified then you aren't. Even >qualified, what someone would be doing giving medical consultation on a >public forum is beyond me, that is big time wrong. I think analyzing case >histories is very valuable for the medical field especially in fledgling >fields like hyperbarics. Histories -read- past issues, not people that are >puking in a Burger King bag as they post to the list on their Citizen >Satellite Watch. We need to have some responsibility in not posting things >that kill people. Sorry that you couldn't read through my enthusiasm. Some >free legal advice for you and all other armchair physicians, protect your >assets by not posting anymore. > >>From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> >>To: Wendell Grogan <wgrogan@dc*.ne*> >>CC: Isaac Callicrate <icallicrate@ho*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com >>Subject: Re: Re: [E-CAVERS] BIG Bull and Squeeze >>Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:59:13 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >Which part was useless? Specifics are discussion, diatribe is >> >pontification without the religion. >> >>This part. >> >>If you think because you are a TDI Deep Air, >> > IANTD Tech Scooter, EMT, DMT, Paramedic, Firefighter, Smokejumper, >> > Paratrooper, Chamber Tender, Italian Free-Diver, PADI Combat Swimmer, >>Rescue >> > Swimmer,MS Certified Systems Engineer, Rescue Diver, American Oilfield >> > Diver,and on and on, that you have the right to give medical >>consultation, >> > or develop treatment protocol you are big time wrong and deserve all the >> > liability that you just earned. Differential diagnosis - screw you. Good >> > Samaritan my ass. If you dont have the certificate on the wall of your >> > clinic shut your c--k holsters. You arent helping anyone. If you are not >>a >> > UMO, DMO, UHO, HMO, or whatever, someone with diving/hyperbaric medicine >> > specialty/sub, than you need to say to the diver that reports not >>feeling >> > right, "buddy, you should go to a chamber" - THE END- >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: "Wendell Grogan"<wgrogan@dc*.ne*> >>To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> >>Cc: "Isaac Callicrate"<icallicrate@ho*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com >>Date: Mon Oct 01 18:15:49 PDT 2001 >>Subject: Re: [E-CAVERS] BIG Bull and Squeeze >> >> >Terry, >> > >> >terry michael wrote: >> >> >> >> Sorry I disagree, Any discussion is good. >> > >> >Sure, but inane babble by the clueless is not discussion. >> > >> >>In my personal experience many of the "chamber folks" don't know sh*t. >> > >> >I can also speak from personal experience from both sides and agree that >> >many people involved in hyperbarics know next to nothing about diving. >> >A frighteningly large number have never even taken a PADI OW course. >> > >> >>Most divers are totally unprepared for the DCI reality. >> > >> >Way too true. Rather than thinking the problem through ahead of time, >> >they use magical thinking to make the risks go away. >> >>Those silly little DAN boxes are a complete joke in my opinion >> > >> >The little DAN boxes do what they were designed to do. Unfortunately, >> >if you're not quarry diving, there's not enough O2 in the bottle to do >> >much. >> > >> >>and so is the previous post with all the useless rhetoric. >> > >> >Which part was useless? Specifics are discussion, diatribe is >> >pontification without the religion. >> > >> > >> >Wendell >> >> >>___________________________________________________ >>GO.com Mail >>Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com >> >> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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