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Thanks for all the private response. It is nice to see that there are a lot of educated professionals on this list that don't feel the need to unnecessarily post argument when they drink to much Ripped Fuel in their coffee. Unfortunately, I guess I need to clarify for one person. My issue in posting about this last medical issue is about isn't proper treatment table use, how big a Jumbo "D" in your DAN O2 kit is, how to use a sphygmomanometer, how to detect a PFO with an EKG/ECG, and symptoms of Middle Ear Oxygen Absorption Syndrome. Those are all valid discussions that are appropriate. My point is that I never want to read someone less than fully qualified, offering TREATMENT to a PATIENT that has a current diving injury. If you don't know if you are qualified then you aren't. Even qualified, what someone would be doing giving medical consultation on a public forum is beyond me, that is big time wrong. I think analyzing case histories is very valuable for the medical field especially in fledgling fields like hyperbarics. Histories -read- past issues, not people that are puking in a Burger King bag as they post to the list on their Citizen Satellite Watch. We need to have some responsibility in not posting things that kill people. Sorry that you couldn't read through my enthusiasm. Some free legal advice for you and all other armchair physicians, protect your assets by not posting anymore. >From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*> >To: Wendell Grogan <wgrogan@dc*.ne*> >CC: Isaac Callicrate <icallicrate@ho*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: Re: Re: [E-CAVERS] BIG Bull and Squeeze >Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:59:13 -0700 (PDT) > > >Which part was useless? Specifics are discussion, diatribe is > >pontification without the religion. > >This part. > >If you think because you are a TDI Deep Air, > > IANTD Tech Scooter, EMT, DMT, Paramedic, Firefighter, Smokejumper, > > Paratrooper, Chamber Tender, Italian Free-Diver, PADI Combat Swimmer, >Rescue > > Swimmer,MS Certified Systems Engineer, Rescue Diver, American Oilfield > > Diver,and on and on, that you have the right to give medical >consultation, > > or develop treatment protocol you are big time wrong and deserve all the > > liability that you just earned. Differential diagnosis - screw you. Good > > Samaritan my ass. If you dont have the certificate on the wall of your > > clinic shut your c--k holsters. You arent helping anyone. If you are not >a > > UMO, DMO, UHO, HMO, or whatever, someone with diving/hyperbaric medicine > > specialty/sub, than you need to say to the diver that reports not >feeling > > right, "buddy, you should go to a chamber" - THE END- > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Wendell Grogan"<wgrogan@dc*.ne*> >To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> >Cc: "Isaac Callicrate"<icallicrate@ho*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com >Date: Mon Oct 01 18:15:49 PDT 2001 >Subject: Re: [E-CAVERS] BIG Bull and Squeeze > > >Terry, > > > >terry michael wrote: > >> > >> Sorry I disagree, Any discussion is good. > > > >Sure, but inane babble by the clueless is not discussion. > > > >>In my personal experience many of the "chamber folks" don't know sh*t. > > > >I can also speak from personal experience from both sides and agree that > >many people involved in hyperbarics know next to nothing about diving. > >A frighteningly large number have never even taken a PADI OW course. > > > >>Most divers are totally unprepared for the DCI reality. > > > >Way too true. Rather than thinking the problem through ahead of time, > >they use magical thinking to make the risks go away. > >>Those silly little DAN boxes are a complete joke in my opinion > > > >The little DAN boxes do what they were designed to do. Unfortunately, > >if you're not quarry diving, there's not enough O2 in the bottle to do > >much. > > > >>and so is the previous post with all the useless rhetoric. > > > >Which part was useless? Specifics are discussion, diatribe is > >pontification without the religion. > > > > > >Wendell > > >___________________________________________________ >GO.com Mail >Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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