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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:05:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
Subject: Re: Re: Whether or not solo diving is an option
To: Eric Nelson <enelson@op*.ne*>, Dogtrner1@ao*.co*
Cc: "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" <Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>
I was totally
>screwing up with a new rig, totally trimmed wrong, struggling with a dry
>suit.  When my guideline came loose because I screwed up in attaching it
>to the downline, this guy calmly sent up a safety sausage with an upline
>and we got back to the boat. 

Eric, in a perfect world people would shell out the dough $$ for a dive charter
and then baby-sit your silly ass all day. Maybe you should rather be in a
swimming pool practicing your technique and not putting "some guys" life in
jeopardy. 


-----Original Message-----
From: "Eric Nelson"<enelson@op*.ne*>
To: Dogtrner1@ao*.co*
Cc: "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com"<Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>
Date: Mon Sep 24 18:35:53 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: Whether or not solo diving is an option

>>
>
>(Snip)
>
>>
>> George,
>>
>> This past summer I was, by the grace of god, able to quit my job and
>> dive almost every day, sometimes both morning, afternoon and night (at
>> least one night a week)
>>
>> Granted not every dive was a tech dive:)  However, finding someone
>> that could have invested that kind of money and time was simply
>> impossible.
>>
>> Hence, I had no choice but to dive solo.  When I was guiding dives, I
>> still had to consider myself a solo diver, because I was diving with
>> people with one or two dives, or people who had not dove in a year or
>> more.
>
>You ALWAYS have a choice whether or not to dive solo.  I dive solo when
>I'm diving less than 90 ft deep in 3 ft vis, but its only because I have
>chosen to do that rather than find a dive buddy who is willing to dive
>within a 3 ft proximity on a silt laden wreck.  To say you have no
>choice is bullshit denial.
>
>>
>>
>> Now that winter is here--sort of.  Diving has slacked off since Labor
>> Day, I will have the opportunity to dive with some people, as the
>> boats will be more limited.
>>
>> However, we still run into the problem--not so much with tech dives,
>> because I spear fish.  (Believe me, I don't do that at night, nor do I
>> do it after certain depths--usually 150 or so.)
>>
>> So what is a person to do?  I will not stop diving.  I will not not
>> dive.  It is my sanity and my savior.  And who wants to be in the
>> water with a person that you have to watch the entire dive (a
>> stranger, who happens to be on the boat)?
>
>Most people don't like being in that position but I think that as a
>group more experienced divers OWE IT to the sport to be someone's more
>experienced buddy.  When I first started diving in the Northeast I had a
>dive where I was buddied up with someone.  He had about 7 yrs experience
>on me and was infinitely more graceful in the water.  I was totally
>screwing up with a new rig, totally trimmed wrong, struggling with a dry
>suit.  When my guideline came loose because I screwed up in attaching it
>to the downline, this guy calmly sent up a safety sausage with an upline
>and we got back to the boat.  When I got on board I felt like a total
>idiot, apologized profusely and this guy calmly told me not to worry
>about it, everyone's new at some point.  Although he had every right to
>make me feel small because I'm sure I screwed up this guys dive, he
>didn't.  Maybe you should either get comfortable with the idea of being
>the more experienced diver in the buddy team or put more effort into
>developing a network of people you can buddy up with.
>
>When you talk about not wanting to buddy up with someone because it
>might spoil your dive it strikes me as the height of
>self-centeredness..  Diving at all levels is safer as a team project be
>it as buddy team or a larger support team.
>
>>  I don't really have the money to waste (45.00 a trip for
>> recreational, and 60.00 a trip for tech) to call the dive simply
>> because there is no one on the boat that I feel comfortable diving
>> with.
>
>> I had that happen this summer.
>>
>> I had an instructor who advocated drinking immediately after a dive
>> when he was fully expecting to do another dive (he was *teaching* a
>> tech class).  And there were a whole lot of other problems on that
>> first day of diving (we did the Rodeo the first dive---couldn't get on
>> the Guy Harvey due to as fishing boat on the wreck)  To the point that
>> I went to my instructor, who also owns the boat, and told him I would
>> not get in the water the next several days, even tho I had already
>> paid for the dives.  That was an extremely dangerous situation.
>>
>> Now, you and I discussed that situation privately----and I would ask
>> that the names be kept silent, as that *instructor* is still under
>> investigation by two organizations.
>>
>> However, as a matter of aside, I would like, in a separate post,
>> discuss all the problems that I saw on those dives, and get some
>> *positive* feedback. I am not interesting in attacks, but rather some
>> learning, if everyone is open,
>
>If you're not interested in attacks what are you doing on tech diver?
>I've made more than a few stupid posts on this list but I'm grateful to
>all the responses, attack or friendly, because I'd rather someone bruise
>my ego than let some stump dumb behavior go unchecked.  Besides if your
>diving system or personal preference can't stand up to an attack maybe
>you should reconsider how you dive.
>
>Eric Nelson
>


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