>Geez, 
>
>You all dont know me from adam, but here are some of my thoughts on it.....
>
>these damn liberals will be the end of the world
>
>Buddy Welker - (this email can be shared with anyone)


Buddy

You're a fool -- you think liberals are the problem?  Let's hear your 
defense of this garbage:

God Gave U.S. 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says 
By John F. Harris
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 14, 2001; Page C03 
Television evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of the most
prominent voices of the religious right, said liberal civil liberties
groups, feminists, homosexuals and abortion rights supporters bear
partial responsibility for Tuesday's terrorist attacks because their
actions have turned God's anger against America.

"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to
give us probably what we deserve," said Falwell, appearing yesterday on
the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700 Club," hosted by Robertson.

"Jerry, that's my feeling," Robertson responded. "I think we've just
seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they
can do to the major population."

Falwell said the American Civil Liberties Union has "got to take a lot
of blame for this," again winning Robertson's agreement: "Well, yes."

Then Falwell broadened his blast to include the federal courts and
others who he said were "throwing God out of the public square." He
added: "The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because
God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent
babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the
abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are
actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People
for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America
-- I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.' "

People for the American Way transcribed the broadcast and denounced the
comments as running directly counter to President Bush's call for
national unity. Ralph G. Neas, the liberal group's president, called the
remarks "absolutely inappropriate and irresponsible."

Robertson and others on the religious right gave critical backing to
Bush last year when he was battling for the GOP presidential nomination.
A White House official called the remarks "inappropriate" and added,
"The president does not share those views."

Falwell was unrepentant, saying in an interview that he was "making a
theological statement, not a legal statement."

"I put all the blame legally and morally on the actions of the
terrorist," he said. But he said America's "secular and anti-Christian
environment left us open to our Lord's [decision] not to protect. When a
nation deserts God and expels God from the culture . . . the result is
not good."

Robertson was not available for comment, a spokeswoman said. But she
released a statement echoing the remarks he made on his show. An ACLU
spokeswoman said the group "will not dignify the Falwell-Robertson
remarks with a comment."

---

I guess Father Mycal Judge brought this on himself when he was killed by 
falling debris while giving last rites to a fellow fire fighter.  

Liberals didn't destroy the World Trade Centers or bomb the Federal 
Building in Oklahoma City; zealots did.  It's time to bury the dead, 
comfort the living, and punish the guilty. Your comments -- like those of 
Falwell and Robertson -- do none of that.


>
>i agree, go after all known or self declared terrorists, if they want to 
>talk 
>the talk they better have to walk the walk
>
>you can never stop a lone mad man like oklahoma city bombers or the una 
>bomber - but only because you can never know someones intent until they act, 
>and even some people themselves dont know their intent till they pull the 
>trigger
>
>HOWEVER! get this through your heads you fucking liberals....
>
>IF someone credibly threatens you - you take their fucking ass out first - 
>they ASKED for it and it is YOUR duty to defend YOURSELF....
>
>IF you meet some guy on the street and he pulls a gun on you, you dont 
>fucking wait until bullet comes out the barrel to figure out wether he is a 
>threat - he is by having pulled the fucking gun!
>
>TERRORIST AROUND THE WORLD HAVE BEEN FUCKING WAVING THE GUNS IN AMERICA"S 
>(AND THE WORLDS) FACE FOR YEARS. THEY HAVE EVEN "TAKEN SOME SHOTS" AT US AND 
>OTHER INNOCENTS. WELL, THEY FUCKING PULLED OUT A GUN ONE TOO MANY TIMES. IF 
>YOUR ARMED AND RUN ACROSS A GUN TOTING CROWD OF QUESTIONABLE CHARACTERS, 
>YOU  
>DONT JUST WORRY ABOUT THE ONE THAT SHOTS, YOU MOW ALL THEIR ASSES DOWN IF 
>NECCESSARY. YOU DAMN BLEEDING HEART PUSSIES WANT TO WALK UP TO EACH ONE AND 
>ASK FIRST IF THE REALLY WANT TO SHOOT YOU ! WELL, NO FUCKING DUH!!!! THEY 
>THREATENED YOU AND SHOTS HAVE BEEN FIRED!
>
>WE KNOW WHOS BEEN WAVING THE GUNS, WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, AND WE KNOW WHOS 
>HIDDING THEM. WE DEMAND THE COUNTRIES TURN THEM OVER, OR SUFFER 
>CONSEQUENCES. 
>IF YOU SUPPORT TERRORISM, YOU JUST AS DAMN GUILTY AS THE TERRORISTS.
>
>
>And from now on, I doubt a terrorist could hijack a plane and fly it into 
>anything with much chance of success. Up to now most hijackings have just 
>been to make a politcal statement or get some cash. So, it was a reasonable 
>assumption on the passengers part to play the sheep and hope for the best.
>
>Well, now passsengers know they are likely dead meat unless they can 
>overtake 
>the hijackers. And they know even if they die trying they will save the 
>lives 
>of others by thwarting the plan. Unless the plane if full of fucking 
>spineless liberals who are willing to sacrifice other innocents because they 
>dont have the will to do the right thing.
>
>You damn liberals cant get you through your heads that as long as bad people 
>exist innocents will suffer, all you can do is behave in a way that 
>minimizes 
>the total loss.
>
>Should we never have dropped a single bomb in WWII because a civilian might 
>have been killed? Shit how many civilians and our own military did we kill 
>ourselves?!!! Probably tens of thousands. How many did we save by fighting 
>an 
>all out war meaning to win? Probably millions. FUCKING GET IT?
>
>Should we never put in prison a criminal or execute a murderer because you 
>can never ever truely PROVE someone did it? How many people have we put in 
>jail or executed who were innocent? Some no doubt. How many innocent crime 
>victims have we saved by putting these bad guys are outta circulation? Many 
>many many times more......As an aside I think we stray way too far in 
>protecting the accused and as a result many more innocents suffer than is 
>neccessary.
>
>THESE TERRORIST ARE MURDERS AND NOTHING LESS. DO YOU PAROLE A MURDERER IN 
>JAIL WHEN HE SITS THERE AND TELLS YOU HE WILLLLLLLLLL KILL AGAIN WHEN HE 
>GETS 
>OUT? FUCK NO. THESE TERRORIST   (ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST THE ONES WHO DID 
>THIS) 
>  ARE PROVEN MURDERS WHO HAVE SAID THEY WOULD CONTINUE THEIR ACTIONS!!!!
>
>YOU DAMN SPINELESS PUSSIES MAKE ME SICK
>
>I guess only a country that fought to get and keep its freedom understands 
>it 
>comes with a heavy price
>
>Buddy Welker
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